Google's AI is still broken

[GaryE]

I like the fact they have us saying "hallucination rates" when we talk about error and false information rates. We do like jargon.

A lot of people will accept this tech as authority, and while it may get better as it steals more human input, it will always be open to the manipulation of faithful followers.

 

[TwoTankAmin]

Well the fact seems to be that most do not realize that AI stands for Almost Ignorant.......

 

[sharkweek178]

 

[jaylach]

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That is one of the biggest problems with AI. In the above cartoon the AI answer is actually true as the shroom is actually edible in the sense that it can, in fact, be eaten even though it should not.

 

[GaryE]

That is one of the biggest problems with AI. In the above cartoon the AI answer is actually true as the shroom is actually edible in the sense that it can, in fact, be eaten even though it should not.

The cartoon is dead on. It's interesting that while AI has issues with the data it's fed, it also is a very literal system. That's very useful for working through enormous sets of stats, or medical/mathematical functions. It's less useful for interacting with non literal thinking humans - the majority of us.
When you follow the money it leads to AI, so we are going to have to adjust to it, or drop out of the online world. It most likely won't be that good at adjusting to us, except to manipulate us.

 

[sharkweek178]

Edible doesn't mean "can be chewed up and swallowed". Edible means fit to be eaten. So the AI in the cartoon was incorrect.

 

[GaryE]

I just had an amusing read. I am a sucker for any article about my hockey team - ice hockey, that is. I just read a piece that started out like it was talking to simpletons, with breathy, smooth, vacant prose. As it went on, it became very confused about the sport in question, also talking about field hockey. It then started using pronouns to reference people it had never introduced. "He said" without ever mentioning who he might be.

I notice sports writing by AI is having serious gender pronoun issues, and is interpreting many eastern European male names as female. This is the golden age. It'll get boring as it is improved.

 

[TwoTankAmin]

So, I just asked Google "how inaccurate is the Google AI" Here is what came back, but first:

The first problem was I was unable to do a copy paste of the answer. I tried a few time using Control C and then using Copy from the File tab. No luck. so I did a screen shot and that worked.

I am getting my old laptop back soon with Windows 11 loaded. The first thing I will do if my computer guy has not done so is to turn off everything AI since it is Opt Out. I will also have him try to make sure Edhe wont work and wont update as I have it on Win 10.

Since I do not have a camera nor a microphone attached to my Monitor or PC. I should be somewhat safe. I have two words for Microsoft and they are not Happy Birthday.........

If you want an even more scary answer, ask the same question but click on AI Mode before you hit enter.

 

[Colin_T]

So, I just asked Google "how inaccurate is the Google AI" Here is what came back, but first:

LOL asking Google's AI how dumb it is
inaccurate/ dumb, same thing

 

[GaryE]

In time, it'll get much more accurate. We're its guinea pigs now. I predict it will become very good at answers, and awful at what really matters, questions.

We're nervous about it so we make fun of it, but the people behind it couldn't care less.

 

[Colin_T]

I'm not nervous. I just don't want Skynet or whatever they want to call it (The Cloud, AI, etc).

 

[TwoTankAmin]

What would give anybody faith that AI will get better?

Have you seen the 2004 film, I, Robot? If not watch this scene. A robot is a perfect example of the application of an AI.

 

[GaryE]

I expect it will work better as it mines more and more info. That's how it's designed to work. But I also expect it'll work like algorithms - pushing people toward popular prejudices as it receives that input and 'decides' that's correct. it's going to create a climate of sameness, if it follows the usual patterns of these things. It will be far better at what it delivers, but what it delivers will be second rate for learners, and wonderful for corporations.

Again, that will be its commercial side. I expect that for things like medicone and data crunching, it'll be very useful for us.

I don't have 'faith' it'll get better, but it will work better in the ways it's been designed to work. I see commercial AI as an unavoidable evil in the hands of some very stupid people with great technical and engineering skill.

 

[Colin_T]

Have you seen the 2004 film, I, Robot? If not watch this scene. A robot is a perfect example of the application of an AI.

so is the Terminator

and I Robot had a bad outcome for various things in that movie.

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[sharkweek178]

Knowledge and wisdom are hard earned. You have to spend time studying. And you need other people to guide you. You can get a lot of knowledge from the internet but you should read actual books for that knowledge to have depth.
I'm sure we've all looked at fishkeeping advice given online and disagreed with it. It takes experience to be able to suss out good information from bad. That's why Dunning-Kruger is a thing. People can absorb a lot of knowledge in a short time but they don't truly understand it.
AI basically gleans it's knowledge from cursory internet searches. Everyone knows that the internet is full of misinformation. So do the math there.