Fully Stocked Now?

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Some of you will have followed my progress over the last three months, setting up and stocking my 100 litre community tank. The inhabitants are listed in my sig; guess I'm fully stocked after yesterday's addition of (unplanned!) 14 juvenile neons? I'd love to add a pair of blue rams, but think that may be pushing it too much? Any thoughts?!
 
Yeah...I think you are very correct. It is fully stocked now, plus a little.
 
Yeah thats pretty full :) Its the white skirts and cories that do it, IMO not the best choice, panda or pygmy cories and smaller tetras would be better than the disk type white skirt.

But its pretty nice stocking as it is I wouldnt be worried about it :)

Wills
 
Just to chime in, even if it wasn't fully stocked, none of your current inhabitants would be happy at the higher temps the rams need to thrive.
 
Thanks for the Ram temperature consideration, although all my reference books and a lot of internet sources say 24-30C, so my 25-26 would be too low?

Anyway, I agree the 6 skirt tetras and 6 peppered cores took a lot of my capacity in the 100 litre. The skirt tetras were never intended for a community aquarium, in fact I got them about a year ago for my son's small 20 litre tank before I knew anything about fish keeping. It was that tank that got me interested and wanting to expand, so since the poor things had survived a fish-in cycle when I first got them, I felt obliged to looked after them and let them have the relative luxury of the 100 litre which was fishless cycled! Although if I could find a decent home for them locally, I probably would, since there are many other interesting, smaller, species I'd like to keep, such as harlequins, embers, blue tetras, congas, etc. The six peppered corys were well researched, in that I wanted to do what was right and wanted corys, so got a decent sized group of the exact same species. A couple of months later, I'd do it differently - although they are the most interesting little characters, mine are not shy at all, and tend to hang around in pairs, so six was probably unnecessary in hindsight. If I was buying corydoras now, I'd probably by two pairs or trios of different cory species, maybe julii and sterbai. My two platys are doing well in the slightly alkaline water, although I'd probably opt for more shoaling fish as mentioned above if I was starting from scratch now. The neons have been with me for 2 days now, and they're very young, so although I'd be disappointed to lose any, realistically I should expect to have a mature group of maybe eight or so. Reading through all that, I guess I'm a prime candidate for the dreaded MTS!!!!
 
Thanks for the Ram temperature consideration, although all my reference books and a lot of internet sources say 24-30C, so my 25-26 would be too low?

Anyway, I agree the 6 skirt tetras and 6 peppered cores took a lot of my capacity in the 100 litre. The skirt tetras were never intended for a community aquarium, in fact I got them about a year ago for my son's small 20 litre tank before I knew anything about fish keeping. It was that tank that got me interested and wanting to expand, so since the poor things had survived a fish-in cycle when I first got them, I felt obliged to looked after them and let them have the relative luxury of the 100 litre which was fishless cycled! Although if I could find a decent home for them locally, I probably would, since there are many other interesting, smaller, species I'd like to keep, such as harlequins, embers, blue tetras, congas, etc. The six peppered corys were well researched, in that I wanted to do what was right and wanted corys, so got a decent sized group of the exact same species. A couple of months later, I'd do it differently - although they are the most interesting little characters, mine are not shy at all, and tend to hang around in pairs, so six was probably unnecessary in hindsight. If I was buying corydoras now, I'd probably by two pairs or trios of different cory species, maybe julii and sterbai. My two platys are doing well in the slightly alkaline water, although I'd probably opt for more shoaling fish as mentioned above if I was starting from scratch now. The neons have been with me for 2 days now, and they're very young, so although I'd be disappointed to lose any, realistically I should expect to have a mature group of maybe eight or so. Reading through all that, I guess I'm a prime candidate for the dreaded MTS!!!!

Brother, you are already infected. You have two tanks... that's just the beginning!

I am starting my second now, and have access to a number of other used tanks...


6 is necessary, even if doesn't seem like it. 6 is not an arbitrary number, but a standard in the industry/hobby. That's when shoaling species start to show their true character. So, even though they may not all hang together as a full group, they are aware of each other's presence and feel comfortable/confident enough to be more independent. 100L isn't really so big that they aren't that far apart. ;-)
 
For blue rams or any of the morphs, I would recommend a temp of 27-30°C. Anything lower and they won't thrive, over the decades I've kept them in numerous setups, and they've always done best at the higher temps. They lived at lower temps but not as long and were never as healthy. Bolivian rams on the other hand, do great between 24-30°.
Welcome to the club of MTS, as long as the other half doesn't mind it's a great thing. Next up would be 200-300 ltrs.
 
As for mixing different species of corys, I've got 5 sterbai in a tank that now holds a lot of bronze(albino and cross between bronze and gold laser corys)like 10-14, not sure about the number. When I added the bronze corys, they acted like the sterbai were some aliens and ran away from them scared. I was really surprised. The sterbai stay together and don't mix with the bronze too much although they eat together of course.
Then I've got a single corydoras melanistius in another tank with albino and gold laser corys and it sleeps and hangs around with them no problem. The albinos and lasers make no difference between themselves either and have interbred which is another no good reason to mix corys.
 
The albinos and lasers make no difference between themselves either and have interbred which is another no good reason to mix corys.

I believe there is some conjecture as to whether the gold lazers (and Red Line) are a different species or a natural colour morph of the bronze cory (which of course the albino is a colour morph of the bronze). I've seen the Red Line listed as C. Venezuelensis and as C. Anaeus var Red.
 
The albinos and lasers make no difference between themselves either and have interbred which is another no good reason to mix corys.

I believe there is some conjecture as to whether the gold lazers (and Red Line) are a different species or a natural colour morph of the bronze cory (which of course the albino is a colour morph of the bronze). I've seen the Red Line listed as C. Venezuelensis and as C. Anaeus var Red.

Yes, they've no idea yet, could be the same species but I've seen hybrids between sterbai and metae for example too.
 

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