Fish In Cycle Help

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ok, so I finally got my ammonia down to 0ppm (first full day of being 0 will continue to check daily 0.25 before water change), but my nitrites and nitrates are also reading 0 (both before and after water change). I know I can't possibly be cycled without having some nitrates but how is my ammonia at 0 for a full 24 hours with no nitrites nor nitrates? This is a 5 gallon tank with one zebra danio, pH has remained steady at 7.2-7.4 the entire time.

Additional information: I have an airstone running, temp is fairly steady at 74F it has gone up as high as 80F when the light has been on all day but never higher then that. The only additives have been dechlornitor which I don't use all the time as my tap water has no chlorine in it and I also let my tap water stand at a minimum of 48 hours before adding it to the tank (also I always test for chlorine before adding to the tank). I did use stress zyme once but as it did nothing to help my cycling I stopped using it and returned it to the store (also because most people on the fourm said they also had no luck with it). I test the water every 12 hours and do water changes as needed. Basically I tested the water all was 0ppm except for ammonia at 0.25ppm did a 30% water change, tested it 1 hour later down to 0ppm. Tested 12 hours later all levels were still 0 (pH remained stable), no water change. Tested 12 hours later no change in levels, no water change. The zebra is feed once a day.
 
If ammonia and nitrite test 0 for 8 consecutive days then you have a cycled tank. :)

Edit, sorry cant help, just reread your question
 
If ammonia and nitrite test 0 for 8 consecutive days then you have a cycled tank. :)
He also reading a zero for nitrate, which is why I asked him if he has plants. As plants will use nitrates for nutrients.

-FHM
 
Do you have any live plants in the tank?

-FHM
nope all silk plants. I just did my 12 hour test and readings are:

ammonia 0ppm
nitrites 0ppm
nitrates 0ppm
pH 7.4

No water changes now for 36 hours. Again, nitrates have been 0 ppm throughout the 28 days. I had one very small nitrite spike (0.25 ppm) around day 10 and immediately dropped to 0ppm after water change and remained 0ppm ever since. pH has remained steady at 7.2-7.4 throughout the process. Ammonia initially was 1.0ppm and throughout the days and water changes got it to hold at 0ppm for now 36 hours.

Also I am using API master test kit, but I had some left over strips so I tested with the strips as well same readings (not that the strips mean much :shifty: )

Thanks again
 
This is really strange?

Hmmmm....

-FHM


Strange in deed :shout:. I was a biochem major in university and this defies all scientific logic. They only other thing I can think of and sorry for not mentioning earlier, I just thought of it now, is that I have API aquarium salt in the tank, it is a container that can easily be removed. I was told to keep it in the tank at all times to help avoid disease in the tank. I know that the freshwater aquarium salt is a very weak salt, so it shouldn't effect the nitrite/nitrates that much, but could this be the problem?
 
This is really strange?

Hmmmm....

-FHM


Strange in deed :shout:. I was a biochem major in university and this defies all scientific logic. They only other thing I can think of and sorry for not mentioning earlier, I just thought of it now, is that I have API aquarium salt in the tank, it is a container that can easily be removed. I was told to keep it in the tank at all times to help avoid disease in the tank. I know that the freshwater aquarium salt is a very weak salt, so it shouldn't effect the nitrite/nitrates that much, but could this be the problem?
I would highly doubt that the salt has anything to do with it? Have you checked the date in which the API test kit expires? On the front of the bottle there will be some numbers, EX. 0409 = April of 2009. You should check that, because you could be getting inaccurate readings? You should be okay to about 2-3 years after the printed date.

-FHM
 
This is really strange?

Hmmmm....

-FHM


Strange in deed :shout:. I was a biochem major in university and this defies all scientific logic. They only other thing I can think of and sorry for not mentioning earlier, I just thought of it now, is that I have API aquarium salt in the tank, it is a container that can easily be removed. I was told to keep it in the tank at all times to help avoid disease in the tank. I know that the freshwater aquarium salt is a very weak salt, so it shouldn't effect the nitrite/nitrates that much, but could this be the problem?
I would highly doubt that the salt has anything to do with it? Have you checked the date in which the API test kit expires? On the front of the bottle there will be some numbers, EX. 0409 = April of 2009. You should check that, because you could be getting inaccurate readings? You should be okay to about 2-3 years after the printed date.

-FHM
Yep they are in date. I have also used the kit to test various things around the house that I know will give me some results, i.e pure ammonia, windex, household cleaner etc. I also used them yesterday to test some water I got from the pet store fish tank (because out of date testing supplies was my first thought) and got 0ppm ammonia, 0 ppm nitrite and positive (20ppm) nitrate reading from that water.

This fish seems fine, he is currently swimming near the bottom of the tank, which is not unusual for him this time of day, and when I go up to the tank he immediately starts swimming near the top looking for food :) But no clamping of fins, no read gills, he is his normal self.

It is just really odd. I mean if the tank is cycled great!!! But I would expect to see at least some nitrate readings if it was in fact cycled. My next 12 hour reading point will be at 10pm EST so I guess I will check it again then and see. I am just baffled over this it just makes no sense :dunno:
 
Well it looks like science finally caught up to my tank...I have nitrites :D. I never thought I would be so excited for nitrites. I did my next water test at toal of 48 hours after my ammonia level was 0ppm with no sign of nitrites or nitrates, nitrites finally showed up. I ran the test 3 times just to be sure! 0.25ppm Yeah!!! So water change and hopefully I will continue in the right direction.

Thanks to everyone
 
Well it looks like science finally caught up to my tank...I have nitrites :D. I never thought I would be so excited for nitrites. I did my next water test at toal of 48 hours after my ammonia level was 0ppm with no sign of nitrites or nitrates, nitrites finally showed up. I ran the test 3 times just to be sure! 0.25ppm Yeah!!! So water change and hopefully I will continue in the right direction.

Thanks to everyone
There we go :lol:

Those bacteria just wanted to trick you a bit! :lol:

-FHM
 
I forget.. You're fish-in cycling with one fish but had a thread once about switching it to fishless, or you also have a second tank doing fishless cycling?

Anyway, looks like things are making sense again? Fish-in cycling with one fish is notorious for not giving good feedback because the numbers are smaller and more fleeting.

~~waterdrop~~
 

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