Fish Dying For No Apparent Reason

[shelaghfishface]

thankyou tetra linz, your help has been great and very much appreciated,thankyou,ill keep you informed of how it all goes xxxxxx

 

[TetraLinz]

No problem and always a pleasure. Good luck

 

[WILDER]

When fish have flukes they say to back up with a bacterial med after the course of parasite med.
As flukes have nasty bacteria in there hooks which enters the fish blood stream.
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Flukes

Oh, the dreaded Flukes. Under the microscope Flukes appear to be tubes that move like slinkies with funny-looking heads at one end. Flukes are one of the most common and dangerous parasites. They actually carry Aeromonas and Pseudomonas bacteria which are responsible for causing sometimes incurable ulcers in fish. And -- flukes are very fertile. Once you get rid of the adults you must re-treat to get the babies that have hatched. Salt will not touch flukes.

I agree about retreating as the meds kill the adults but you need to carry on treating to kill the parasite when they hatch out of the egg, you can be treating up to four weeks.

 

[shelaghfishface]

ahh right, got you, ill re-treat after the inital course then,
i have lost another platy today, but just at the moment there isnt anything in there that looks like its knocking on deaths door right now, so hopefully the treatment will get a hold before anything else starts to suffer

 

[WILDER]

Good luck.

 

[shelaghfishface]

i have dosed for the second time this morning then turned on the tank lights, to find a dead platy and a dead ballon molly,the molly looked fine yesterday,cant tell you how gutted i am,
so saying this are we still sure i should be treating for flukes??
the fish are eating fine, i cant see any sign of an excess slime coat,( not sure that i should be able to see it)
maybe i should use the anti bac along side the sterazin??
there are also 2 pregnant guppies n the tank(sorry didnt think ti say that days ago) will they be ok?
im just not feeling confident at all on this one, and if it carrues on at this rate its going to wipe the tank out

 

[WILDER]

Red inflamed gills and flicking and rubbing yes I would say flukes.
if it was bacterial I wouldn't expect to see the fish flicking and rubbing.
Your water quality fine so it not that causing the red gills.

I don't rate the watelife med on flukes to be honest, I used flubenol but it's been taken off the market.
There wormer plus.
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[TetraLinz]

i have dosed for the second time this morning then turned on the tank lights, to find a dead platy and a dead ballon molly,the molly looked fine yesterday,cant tell you how gutted i am,
so saying this are we still sure i should be treating for flukes??
the fish are eating fine, i cant see any sign of an excess slime coat,( not sure that i should be able to see it)
maybe i should use the anti bac along side the sterazin??
there are also 2 pregnant guppies n the tank(sorry didnt think ti say that days ago) will they be ok?
im just not feeling confident at all on this one, and if it carrues on at this rate its going to wipe the tank out

Don't mix meds unless you know it's safe to do so. Such meds will usually list which meds they're safe to use with. I believe I've already mentioned in another post that they restrict the gills' ability to absorb oxygen. Using meds together restrict this even further, and increase the risk of renal damage and failure.

 

[WILDER]

I agree as long as you do a 30% water change and run some black carbon before changing meds.

 

[shelaghfishface]

right you are, ill carry on with the sterazin then, thankyou xxx

 

[rabbut]

I've used Sterazin for flukes, and it appeard to work. I have known fish to flick and rub with bacterial infections The only way to confirm either way, is to swap the gills of the next corpse, and stick the sample under a microscope to have a look Apply some "metheien blue" (spelling?) to make the cells and/or flukes more obvious. The organisum with the greatest number of parasites presant is the prime candidate. Bacteria look like "blobs" with a centre. Flukes are a longer stick with a rough head

HTH
Rabbut

 

[shelaghfishface]

thanks Rabbut, what i was thinking yesterday was... are they flicking to get off some of the algae ( maybe to eat it) but then i thought,if this was the case then why are they dying?
theres no bodies overnight this time, so thats a relief.
but if it is an bacterial infection of some sort, will the sterazin touch it?? i mean is it designed only for the fluke bacteria/louse, whatever it is.( is it a broad range med?)
there is definatley more movement in the tank this morning.so thats a good thing, they are swimming about,and have had brekfast, tho there is still some flicking going on, mainly guppies doing it.
oh i have said that then noticed another ballon molly is swimming funny,more upwards, and a few fish are having a go with her,still, they are odd fish anyway, so it could be ok,there a few desperatley trying to pick algae off the window.
all in all, nothing looks as bad as it has done, so i really hope this is the start of the cure
fingers crossed
shelagh xxx

 

[TetraLinz]

thanks Rabbut, what i was thinking yesterday was... are they flicking to get off some of the algae ( maybe to eat it) but then i thought,if this was the case then why are they dying?
theres no bodies overnight this time, so thats a relief.
but if it is an bacterial infection of some sort, will the sterazin touch it?? i mean is it designed only for the fluke bacteria/louse, whatever it is.( is it a broad range med?)
there is definatley more movement in the tank this morning.so thats a good thing, they are swimming about,and have had brekfast, tho there is still some flicking going on, mainly guppies doing it.
oh i have said that then noticed another ballon molly is swimming funny,more upwards, and a few fish are having a go with her,still, they are odd fish anyway, so it could be ok,there a few desperatley trying to pick algae off the window.
all in all, nothing looks as bad as it has done, so i really hope this is the start of the cure
fingers crossed
shelagh xxx

Flukes are a type of parasite and that's what Sterazin treats. One good broad-range med that I have in my cupboard is Esha2000. Treats mild bacteria, fungal and parasitic infections. Looks like the Sterazin is starting to work though . . . Fingers crossed. How do the gills look?

 

[shelaghfishface]

theres no gills looking red in there, but yes im defo of the opinion that the sterazin is starting to take effect

 

[TetraLinz]

You don't want the gills looking red They should be the same colour as the rest of the fish.