Firemouth,angel,kissing Gourami

[foley69]

i never said i agree but maybe if he has 5 FM in a tank then yea but the only thing i think that will be piling on the bio-load is the kissing gourami but as long as water changes are good and you have good filtration there is no problem as i can see also 5 tiger barbs arent gonan be the messiest boi load

 

[GShorty1981]

Foley Maybe i have taken it the wrong way because that is exactly my thoughts on the subject.

If he has five Firemouths in a tank it would have to be around 6 foot anyway because of territory restrictions it would be all out war.

Unless he is keeping juveniles which is even more stupid saying they produce as much mess as a oscar.

I kept a pair of Oscars and a common plec in a 5ftx2ftx2ft tank before and the mess was horrendous,they had white sand originally and it was black inside a few months (i had to change it to gravel),I had a external and 2 internals and i still only fed him once a day max and that was a small amount Cichlid pellets...i had to do water changes 3 times a week to keep it clean.

I have kept both a much bigger Kissing Gourami and a Firemouth before with loads of platys,swordtails and mollys and 2 juvenile clown loaches in a 4ftx1ftx1ft foot tank and i had no mess whatsoever,just the usual gravel clean and weekly water change.

The reason i made the thread was because i have never kept any type of shoaling fish with a Firemouth before and i was concerned about how my Angel would get on with them.

I'm aware of stocking restrictions but IMO that doesent apply to this set up with just 3 6" fish and 5 tiddlers.

 

[foley69]

oscars are a ultra messy fish my mate had his oscar in a 4ft tank and it was scummy with bits of food lying around and poo the size of a sausage but the kissing gourami is probably the only messiest fish in there of course the FM will produce a fair bit of mess but nothing on an oscar and liek i said water changes are a must with all tanks and good filtration get that sorted and theres nothing to worry about

 

[GShorty1981]

Of course,Water changes are not a problem for me and never have been.

I honestly think it would be worse if i had a ton of livebearers and tetras than it would be with 3 Larger fish as the sh!t gets everywhere with things like Platys.

And i totally agree about Oscars,thats why i sold them!! to much work to keep them happy and keep ammonia down unless you have a 8ft tank with 3 external filters.

 

[foley69]

i have never been interested in oscars i prefer jack dempseys they are my fav cichlid

 

[GShorty1981]

Never kept a JD before although they do look nice,I think Jaguars are my Fave new world Cichlid and Frontosa's from my Africans...i got a soft spot for FM's and Kribs to

 

[minxfishy]

Not getting into the argument here, but just wondered if you had considered maybe something like a giant danio instead of TB's? Tiger barbs can be nippy and could (not saying they will) annoy the angel with its long fins, especially if they arent kept in a large group 8+ to spread their aggression between themselves, whereas Giant danios arent so nippy, wouldnt need as large a shoal, roughly the same size " wise, same bio load and pretty fast to avoid any problems with the FM. Just a suggestion

 

[foley69]

best idea in this thread minx never thought of them i tought they would be bit big

 

[minxfishy]

I could be wrong, but think they top out at 4", but happy to be corrected if Im wrong

Or another idea, cherry barbs, not nippy, peaceful, shoaling, but again quick enough to avoid trouble.

 

[GShorty1981]

Cherrys would be awesome but to small,the FM or KG would eat them.

 

[GShorty1981]

Got a bigger tank off my mate today (60 gallon) with a mature Fluval 404,saved most of his water to,filled the rest of it up with my tank and went and bought a Adult Angel,Juvenile Gold Severum and 5 Black Widows.

Also got 5 Bristleys coming.

My other tanks filled up awaiting tons of livebearer fry.