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Matthew5664

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I'm going to try to put togeter a mock marine setup using tropical fish and inverts. Crabs FW lobsters you know, and was wondering what fish would be best sutet to a sand bottemed tank with alot of rock? this way i can have the marine inviroment without all the hassel (cost!)
 
Please don't mix fish with crabs or lobsters (crayfish), it always results in something getting eaten and its usually the fish. Inverts with claws and fish do not mix.

The closest thing to a marine tank you can get with freshwater is a Malaiwi Cichlid tank. Many of the fish found in lake Malaiwi have colours to rival those of marine reef fish and their natural habbitat is rocky outcrops and sand substrates.
 
you would have to choose something that wont be affected by the absence of plants. most FW fish need to have plants of some sort to make them feel comfortable and safe. the only kind of fish i can think of that dont need plants are African cichlids and some New World cichlids but these dont really resemble marine fish.

maybe best to just stick with a normal FW settup...or go for a real marine settup :p
 
Put some freshwater shrimp in. That would help i look like the sea. I personally like the cherry shrimp that are very red.
 
African cichilds it might be but i think i may have to go with the marine setup to get the full effect! have to do it slower than i would like, about 3-4 monthes b4 i can by all the kit!! seen a tank and stand witch is a start 170x60x70 cm with oak cabnet?? whats the opinon?? £660 should offer a bit less??
 
the only shrimps that would work would be the algae eating japonica shrimp and the "bamboo" or "mountain" fan shrimp.

As for fish, cichlids are a good one to imitate marine, as are things like RTB Sharks and freshwater gobies!

Ben
 
660 seems a lot for a tank and a stand, unless the stand is antique...

Maybe if te tank comes drilled and with a sump filtration and return pump...but I would certainly shop around.
 
I dunno, that sounds about right for a 5½' x 24" x 28" tank if it is a nice oak finish.

You can get cheaper sure, but it will probably be veneered mdf/plastic finish.

Does the tank come with filtration? You will deffinately need an external on that tank.

Ben
 
don't know about filtration have to go back and ask. Should it for that price?? I think it come drilled to your spec!?!
 
I thought you would at least be able to get filtration/heating/lighting with a big discount if it doesnt come with them.

Ben
 
I dont think there uis any fish that looks like a marine fish, that actually is a FW fish.
I always thought when I saw a tank that was supposed to look like something else (Like a FW tank with a "Under The Sea City" theme). In other words, I think you should just go for SW or FW, dont try and do both, because it'll either come out tacky, or expansive, or maybe both!
 
Cichlids are actually decendents of marine fish and in turn display colors and behaviors that are as close to marine as you can get. Lake Tanganyika comes to mind... I mean... look at this!
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Besides, if you want a tank with lots of rock, woudn't it make sense to go with fish that like lots of rock.
 
IMO if you want the "look" of a marine tank then its best to "have" a marine tank. I prefer to see tanks that are supposed to look like their natural habitats.

Marines is not the moneypit everyone thinks it is... It can be of course but its also possible to run them successfully on a budget.

If you are considering seting up a marine tank then i would advise asking the same question in the maarine part of this forum.
 
On the other hand, if you still want to go for a marine-immitation, you are not limmited to african cichlids most of which are not community fish so don't mix them with peaceful species obviously).

You should take a look at rainbowfish: http://members.optushome.com.au/chelmon/ Even true marine fish don't surpass them in color by much. Don't be fulled by the dull color rainbows have when young or in the LFS - they'll brighten up soon after. Then there's all those cultivated livebearer strains that we perhaps often over-look as being too 'common'. If you use them tactfuly, you can get a lovely effect - swordtails, mollies, platies - they're all great for this sort of thing (plus mollies can actualy be marine ;)). Then there's all sorts of freshwater gobies and gudgeons - take the purple spotted gudgeon for instance - which look very much like marine fish in every way (except they don't need salt). If you can get large filter-feeding shrimp to add to the set-up, that'll give a more marine-like feel: http://www.petshrimp.com/index.html Just make sure nothing in the tank will eat the shrimp. Similarly, apple snails and other fancy freshwater snails will also make the tank feel a bit more like saltwater. There are many varieties and colors to choose from with snails - many, many more than you might think: http://www.snailshop.co.uk/index.html - just make sure you don't have a loach or something that'll make a snack of them! I can't help mentioning gouramies as well - the various colisa species, in particular, as well as the paradisefish and, of course, bettas, are very brightly colored and strikingly marked. They are fish to consider. As are sharks. With these last two suggestions, however, be very careful when mixing them all as all these fish have the potential to be rather aggressive.

Lastly, discus - the most obvious option - rival many marines in color. They are not all that difficult to keep if you do your research and, perhaps, are the perfect stepping-stone towards going marine.
 

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