Extremely Worried, Please Advice

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OK, I noticed yesterday that my two fish in the 40g tank were not eating as normal, yes this is an weird combo but its working, so no bashing me.

Texas cichlid 5/6" and a 6/7" BGKF. Best buds these two, no aggression issues, normally when I put food in, they are both there and rushing to the top to get their share and its rarely in the tank for more than 5 minutes before most of it is gone, what little is left is gone within an hour. This morning, most of the brineshrimp was still on the floor of the tank uneaten, which made me think something was up. They did come up to the top yesterday but lost interest fairly quickly.

Had done a w/c 20% on the tank yesterday, usually do 2 x 20% weekly. So as you do I test the water, 0 amm or nitrIte, 10 nitrAte, no change in ph 7.8, temp steady at 26.

Anyway I did another 10% change, mainly to vac up the leftover food.

Gone to feed them this afternoon and no response whatsoever, ghostie usually leaps out from his cave the instant I lift the lid, but he hasnt bothered, Texas not interested either, in fact he is just sitting in one spot breathing what looks like heavily to me, definately more than usual anyway. The flow from the filter is great, plenty of aeration so I cant see why hes doing this.

Ghostie looks like hes having problems navigating and is swimming on his side more than usual (its hard with a BGKF to explain as they swim in weird ways sometimes anyway) and has a sniff of the food (in this case blood worm, as they love the stuff!!) but then swims away from it, this is not normal behaviour from him at all.

Nothing has been added to the tank, levels are always stable, Im at a loss to know what to do, no visible signs of anything untowards, no flicking, no rubbing, no spots nothing at all. Nothing sprayed around the tank, it sits on my worktop in my kitchen, anybody think of something Im not, these two are my favourite fish and I know somethings up but I cant work out what and to lose them will break my heart :(
 
Just done another 10% change to clear up the bloodworm.
 
Swimmg on there sides can be swim bladder to internal parasites.
Bacterial infections with no symtoms is being pale or darker in colour.
Being listless and lethagic and sometimes not eating.
How do the gills look.
 
Gills look fine, no loss of colour for either fish or darkening.

Just the BGKF that seems to be swimming funny, but like I say its hard to tell with them, he seems disorientated if that makes sense.
 
Does he look bloated or thin.
Check there anuses over to see if its look inflamed or enlarged.
What does it look like when they go to the toilet.
Can the fish maintain its balance in the water.
Are the fish resting on things in the tank.
Do any fish headstand or turn upside down.
 
Ok :lol: where the heck is a bgkf's bum? Never ever seen him poo in all the time ive had him, so cant tell you his bowel movements, but the Texas' looks completely normal, not stringy, mucusy, normal brown sized poop. No swelling of his rearend either!

The tex has no problems with balance or anything, and the ghost seems to be able to when he tries, but mainly hes on his side doing his normal floating thing, when he tries to swim off its as if he doesnt know where everything is, I know he cant see, but maybe hes electrical impulses are off, does that make sense?

Neither look bloated or thin, there are no outward signs of anything wrong, its the behaviour thats strange. Texas is still breathing heavily.

Neither resting on things, no headstanding or upside down.

Neither will eat anything.
 
Fish breathing can also go heavier with a bacterial infection.
Not really much to go on.
It could be bacterial can youn issolate the fish.
 
As they are the only ones in the tank then they are isolated.

If its bacterial any advice on what meds to use considering the ghost doesnt even tolerate melafix? Hes looking worse by the hour, I dont think hes gonna make it :(
 
Thanks Hon, will pop out and get some interpet in the morning, only have melafix, pimafix, protozin and myxazin to hand.
 
Ok good luck.
 
Just to update, this morning, both tex and ghostie seem fine, more active and no heavy breathing, I can only assume it was lack of oxygen because last night I moved the spray bar even higher out of the water and basically created what looks like a waterfall into the tank and today they seem much better, although I have yet to feed them :)
 
Is the fish still swimming on its side.
 
No he seems to be able to swim properly again, soon as I went to the tank this morning and turned onthe lights, out he came looking and swimming as normal.
 
Ok glad he back to normal bless him.
Good Luck.
 

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