Duboisi

grayboy1

Fish Fanatic
Joined
Aug 16, 2006
Messages
71
Reaction score
0
can t. duboisi be kept with mbunas? more precise. small aggressive mbunas such as demasoni and elongatus. im slowly stocking my new mbuna tank up with young fish of a few species. got auratus, elongatus, careleus, maylandi barlowi. would some duboisis be fine?


my tank is 90"x22"x16"
 
can t. duboisi be kept with mbunas? more precise. small aggressive mbunas such as demasoni and elongatus. im slowly stocking my new mbuna tank up with young fish of a few species. got auratus, elongatus, careleus, maylandi barlowi. would some duboisis be fine?


my tank is 90"x22"x16"


Tropheus Duboisi should be kept in species tanks not with Mbuna and especially not with those aggressive ones you have. :)
 
oh ok. i heard they are very aggresive. maybe only towards their own species then? im planning on adding some yellow tailed aceis, ps flavus, demasonis, crabros, johannis affras and greshakeis. this all sound ok? :)
 
For a week I had two tropheus in my tank. They created bedlam. The male chased the female relentlessly and every other fish in the tank. They are gone now and everything has calmed down again.

The list of fish you have put contains Demasoni. I like them but most members recommend only one as they are highly aggressive. I'm no expert but that list looks pretty explosive to me. Wait for Ferris or Dru to answer your question more thoroughly. :)
 
Unless you are going for a species only tank, 1 Demasoni is the most you should keep IMO. These guys are seriously aggressive and simply don't tolerate their own kind or anything with a similar appearance, which includes Elongatus i'm afraid. :/

The same also goes for Auratus i'm sorry to say, if anything they are even worse. I would seriously reccommend returning any you already have. The Labs, Barlowi and Elongatus should get along fine and there are plenty of other Mbuna to choose from that will work but as Cheffi has said, Duboisi are not a good idea, they are generally accepted as one of the hardest African cichlids to keep alive in captivity (Dru - you're doing a good job m8 :good: ).

If you can get Flavus, go for it, they are simply stunning and should be fine with your existing fish minus the Auratus. Johanni's and Afra's should also work and probably Crabro, although i'm sure someone will tell you that Crabro are absolute killer's but IME that's excessive at best :D

Anyway hope that helps. :good:
 
my tank is 7 and a half feet long and has more hiding places/caves than ive got hairs on my chest. you really think they are that bad? i was planning on a group of 5..... thanks for the info all the same :)
 
For a week I had two tropheus in my tank. They created bedlam. The male chased the female relentlessly and every other fish in the tank. They are gone now and everything has calmed down again.

The list of fish you have put contains Demasoni. I like them but most members recommend only one as they are highly aggressive. I'm no expert but that list looks pretty explosive to me. Wait for Ferris or Dru to answer your question more thoroughly. :)

Ferris has spoken, and now so will I :D

Queue the fantastic Drum roll........

Yes you have a mixture of ultra aggressive fish and ultra calm fish (or so i'm led to beleive anyway)

in my tank (see other thread) i have demasoni, Elongatus, caeruleus and a duboisi, i would NEVER have an auratus in my tank, but thats just me, i know someone who has like 10 of then in a 400L tank and they are placed as you like, so you need to keep an open mind i thin kon these things.

Cheffi is right about the tropheus, they like the demasoni are 'one or all fish' meaning that you can either keep one fish happy, or need a LAGRE group to keep them in check, i have a demasoni and a duboisis single speciemin, therefore they are much easier to keep (damn have i told them my secrets :hey: )

Your elongatus is vertually the same fish as a demo as has already been said, so you have to be careful. I have 2 WC elongatus in my tank, but they never colour up, why, becuase the single demo keeps them in check, anything that looks even remotely similalr to the demasoni is classed as a demasoni by the demasoni and so the chase continues..

Like you say, you have a MASSIVE tank, so probably a lot of the rules associated with smaller tanks may not affect you so much..

if you have the terratory and the space and you are not UNDERSTOCKED them you may get away with a lot of things...

personally i felt sorry for my duboisi in the shop, so i bought him, i would not recommend others to do the same.

if you have enough fish in the tank, your issues with auratus may come to nothing, however the elongatus and demasoin issue won't go away and i beleive it will have to be one or the other, but thats ONLY my opinion.

A tank that size can easily hold 50 adult fish so would seriously think hard about stocking it with fish that you like in large groups, you can always thin them out in time once sex ratios are known.

are there any more malawi fish you are interested in, a small group of Acei would be nice in a tank that size, or maybe some cobalts, put basically the more fish you have in ther the aggression will be less and then any issues you have with feirce fish will be heavily reduced becuase of it?

Also where are you based and are you aware of where you can get the fish you are after from, either by LFS or private breeders??

I hope this helps and it would be great if you keep us informed of what you do and always keep it up to date with some pictures - i love big tank shots, mine is tiny compared to some of the beasts out there, but i'm sure someone will cheer me up by telling me its not the size its what you've got in it :lol: :lol: that counts :good:

Good Luck ,

Dru.
 
my tank is 7 and a half feet long and has more hiding places/caves than ive got hairs on my chest. you really think they are that bad? i was planning on a group of 5..... thanks for the info all the same :)


Gosh that is a big tank. I would love to see some photo's of it when you have time. :)
 
ill get straight to work on the photos then. thanks for the replies everyone! i must say, at the moment its very understocked. but i currently have auratus AND elongatus and id say my worst fish in terms of aggression to OTHERS are my yellow tailed aceis.
 
You will not see true Mbuna characterristics or aggression while they are juveniles and indeed IMO you do not have a successful Mbuna tank until all the fish are adults.

Even fish that have grown up together can turn on each other as the adult tendancies for territory take hold. People are always surprised when their seemingly settled tank suddenly turns volatile but this is just natural Mbuna instincts.
 
You will not see true Mbuna characterristics or aggression while they are juveniles and indeed IMO you do not have a successful Mbuna tank until all the fish are adults.

Even fish that have grown up together can turn on each other as the adult tendancies for territory take hold. People are always surprised when their seemingly settled tank suddenly turns volatile but this is just natural Mbuna instincts.

Guess what I'm not waiting for then........



.....tick tock, tick tock

The MAlawi Timebomb is ticking away, my sotcking list will come back to haunt me i'm sure :huh:
 
The MAlawi Timebomb is ticking away, my sotcking list will come back to haunt me i'm sure

You should be fine Dru as you know to expect this and can take appropriate action when and if it happens. :good:
 
fingers crossed, altohugh i'm having a little bit of a power shift at the mo..

my second Acei Female is turning out to be a male i think and the main Male is now taking a back seat.

Fasinating watching a tank's dynamics as it evolves, develops and changes, as long as i keep a close eye on it (who doesn't when it comes to their own tank hey?) i should be ok... :good:
 
I sometimes wish my current stock were still juvies, part of the fun is seeing how they grow up and develop. I'll just have to get another tank and start from scratch again - time to lose some more furniture. :lol:
 

Most reactions

Back
Top