Does anyone still use flaked food?

I have a dream that one day I'll be culturing lots of live food and making my own frozen foods as well
in my fishroom I culture 7 types of live foods all year round breeding lots of live food can take up a lot of space and time consuming my grindal worm and earthworm culture need feeding daily I have five 35 l containers of Daphnia thet takes quite a bit of space .
I also make my own frozen food, I feed a cheap flake food , high protein granules. and catfish pellets,
 
I have a dream that one day I'll be culturing lots of live food and making my own frozen foods as well
in my fishroom I culture 7 types of live foods all year round breeding lots of live food can take up a lot of space and time consuming my grindal worm and earthworm culture need feeding daily I have five 35 l containers of Daphnia thet takes quite a bit of space .
I also make my own frozen food, I feed a cheap flake food , high protein granules. and catfish pellets,
Getting into live and homemade food seems essential to me if you wish to breed fish. I make my own frozen mixes, with ever adjusted recipes depending on my fish.
I culture wingless fruit flies for my hatchets and Epiplatys. Tetras go for them to. The wingless flies take time and space, and in spite of some tried and true tricks, end up smelly.
Daphnia is seasonal here. I feed it all summer, both the cultures, and my fish with it.
I feed a lot of freshly hatched artemia - cysts and new fish are my biggest expenses.
Mosquitoes and the odd bloodworm are also seasonal, cultured outdoors.
White worms are regulars. They also take attention and space.

It's very easy to spend more time on live food than on the creatures we feed them to. Many a reptile keeper has encountered that one, but it also affects fishkeepers. I use flake for some of my 'eat anything' fish, and on days when time just isn't there. I like a European brand we get here, Tropical, whose small granules are also excellent for bottom dwellers. I have some bulk bought cheap flake that does the job, and since I don't use enormous amounts of flake, I really like bug bites even if they are pricey for a set up as excessively large as mine.

I measure the quality of foods by how they affect egg production. That's an area where a fish breeder gets an advantage, by being able to see that. I found most of the expensive name brand flakes people say they can't get aren't missed. Egg production was always low with them. The only prepared foods that get even close to live food have high insect content. Tropical insect food and Fluval bug bites are my go tos. We used to get a pellet brand with soldier fly larvae, Northfin, as competition to bug bites, and it was good but made a coffee grinder essential because the pellets were big. I use a lot of chicken feed dried soldier fly larvae in my frozen paste foods.
 
actually flaked foods have to be looked at individually, as their ingredients, and the process of "flaking" can be done several ways... the old "oily" types were likely made on a drum drier, and the old system needs a release agent to make the flakes release from the steel drum they were formed on, this was typically an oil or lecithin product, but if it was done with a fish oil, the release agent can be a beneficial ingredient, but there are more systems to flake today, and improved ways to get the flakes to release from the drum ( like air ) that an oil is not needed, though the right oil can be nutritionally beneficial ingredient
 

Does anyone still use flaked food?​

I sure do... But it's not just flake food I'm giving my fish. But flake food will always be a part of the feeding program.
I'm also not using a specific brand. I'm always purchasing bulk packaging without a brand label on it. But only the ingredients are printed on that label. They come from a factory which produces fish food for known fish food brands. But without a brand label, these food are much cheaper. Let's be honest, the prices you pay for brand labeled fish food is partially paid for the brand itself. Mine is high quality food. The reason that I used bulk food is because of the number of tanks and fish I have overhere. It's more than the average aquarist. So, paying a lower price for fish food is very welcome... Without loss of the quality of the food.
 
@AJ356 New Life Spectrum products are hit and miss for availability. They were easy to get a few years ago but not now.
Northfin products are available on Amazon but many of them seem to be in large quantities - their community flake is in a 350 g pack which would last me decades. There used to be a seller in Peterlee but their website is no longer there so they may have closed down.
 
@AJ356 New Life Spectrum products are hit and miss for availability. They were easy to get a few years ago but not now.
Northfin products are available on Amazon but many of them seem to be in large quantities - their community flake is in a 350 g pack which would last me decades. There used to be a seller in Peterlee but their website is no longer there so they may have closed down.
Thanks. Not flakes.....

What I found is this https://www.amazon.co.uk/New-Life-S...hvtargid=pla-2281435176618&psc=1&gad_source=1

The ingredients look decent

Whole Antarctic Krill**, Giant Squid*, Whole Wheat Flour, Whole Menhaden Fish*, Ulva Seaweed, Chlorella Seaweed, Wakame Seaweed, Kelp, Garlic, Ginger, Astaxanthin, Spirulina, Omega-3 Fish Oil*, Marigold, Zeaxanthin, Capsanthin, Eucheuma cottonii Seaweed, Chondrus crispus Seaweed, Spinosum Seaweed, Bentonite Clay, Sea Salt
 
@AJ356 New Life Spectrum products are hit and miss for availability. They were easy to get a few years ago but not now.
Northfin products are available on Amazon but many of them seem to be in large quantities - their community flake is in a 350 g pack which would last me decades. There used to be a seller in Peterlee but their website is no longer there so they may have closed down.
Also, this one, again, not flakes


Ingredients look good to me
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@AJ356 New Life Spectrum products are hit and miss for availability. They were easy to get a few years ago but not now.
Northfin products are available on Amazon but many of them seem to be in large quantities - their community flake is in a 350 g pack which would last me decades. There used to be a seller in Peterlee but their website is no longer there so they may have closed down.

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@AJ356 New Life Spectrum products are hit and miss for availability. They were easy to get a few years ago but not now.
Northfin products are available on Amazon but many of them seem to be in large quantities - their community flake is in a 350 g pack which would last me decades. There used to be a seller in Peterlee but their website is no longer there so they may have closed down.

Ingredients:
Whole Antarctic Krill**, Giant Squid*, Whole Wheat Flour, Whole Menhaden Fish*, Ulva Seaweed, Chlorella Seaweed, Wakame Seaweed, Kelp, Garlic, Ginger, Astaxanthin, Spirulina, Omega-3 Fish Oil*, Marigold, Zeaxanthin, Capsanthin, Eucheuma cottonii Seaweed, Chondrus crispus Seaweed, Spinosum Seaweed, Bentonite Clay, Sea Salt
 
@AJ356 New Life Spectrum products are hit and miss for availability. They were easy to get a few years ago but not now.
Northfin products are available on Amazon but many of them seem to be in large quantities - their community flake is in a 350 g pack which would last me decades. There used to be a seller in Peterlee but their website is no longer there so they may have closed down.

Ingredients Whole Antarctic Krill, Whole Herring, Whole Wheat Flour, Algae, Beta Carotene, Spirulina, Garlic, Vegetable and Fruit Extract, Vitamin A Acetate, Vitamin D Supplement, Vitamin B12 Supplement, Vitamin E Supplement, Riboflavin Supplement, Folic Acid, Niacin, Biotin, Calcium Pantothenate, Pyridoxine Hydrochloride, L-Ascorbyl-2-Polyphosphate (Stable C), Ethylenediamine Dihydroiodide, Cobalt Sulfate, Ferrous Sulfate, Manganese Sulfate, Choline Chloride.
 
What do you think of all the above @Essjay ? Expensive sure, but looks like a more favourable ingredient list compared to most dried foods in the UK, bar Bug Bites perhaps, and some of the JBL stuff?
 
@AJ356 New Life Spectrum products are hit and miss for availability. They were easy to get a few years ago but not now.
Northfin products are available on Amazon but many of them seem to be in large quantities - their community flake is in a 350 g pack which would last me decades. There used to be a seller in Peterlee but their website is no longer there so they may have closed down.
I randomly found this seller in Peterlee, so will order, doesn't look like he has much available though

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/365907502301?_ul=GB&mkevt=1&mkcid=1&mkrid=710-53481-19255-0&campid=5338990947&toolid=10001&customid=eb:g:vms:eb:p:365907502301;
 
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That Peterlee seller has a strange combination of things for sale. The one which used to sell Northfin was Dandy Cichlids; they had a 'real' shop and website besides their ebay shop, though I never managed to go there.

The seller in the last link is in the USA so I'm surprised at the delivery charge of just £1.87.

Both NLS and Northfin are among the best fish foods for quality of ingredients. Northfin's website describes what they use - whole named fish meal, for example, is better quality that the 'fish meal' found in a lot of brands.
I have been using Oase flakes but they've changed the ingredients to lower the quality. So I've been searching for a different brand.

I have just bought - but not yet opened - these flakes

and Northfin Nano Bits and Fluval Bug Bites Spirulina Flakes.



Edit - I have no idea why the ebay link has turned into "pardon our interruption"
 
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