Clamped male guppy with “growth” or “tumour” on underside.

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It wasn’t there five hours ago but is now but not as big as it has been. It may be on the way out or way in? It’s not fish poo because there’s been fish poo visible at the same time as the “growth”.
First pic is out of focus from Thursday but shows it’s size when it is there fully.
On this mornings pics he’s the red/white feller on the left. It’s not as big as it has been. He seems a bit healthier now but both he and his brother are clamped. The other two only occasionally clamped.
Ill try for better pics if it gets bigger.
 

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The things not there atm. We’re thinking some sort of prolapse when he poos. He’s still permanently clamped but is getting around a lot more and a lot more easily. At one point it seemed he was thrashing his fins just to stay still, at that time the others were all staring at him. I know I’m projecting here but it looked like everyone both inside and outside of the tank thought he didn’t have long left.

Ive done a 75% water change with a tablespoon of salt per 20L every day. Ill keep it up until I get a good photo but short of sitting in front of tank 24/7 its just hoping I catch it to take a pic.

General question: If I’m changing 75% of water every day is there any point in adding flourish? Or should I add even more which is what I’m now thinking.
 
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It’s back but not to full extent. Anyone got any ideas?

Is there any point in using flourish when I’m changing 75% of water daily?
 

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RIP Johnny. Found him dead first thing this morning lying in the one place he couldn’t be seen from front of tank or above. Slight growth thing visible.

Other three swimming around perfectly normally. Don’t seem clamped at all.

If it was a physical problem with Johnny then there’s no point in me continuing with the daily 75% plus salt water changes is there? I’m gonna do a large gravel FAC and water change now without salt as I’ve taken floating plants, bog roots and caves out to find him.

It’s hard isn’t it?
Only had them 13 days. From the off he was always swimming around on his own. When we first got them they stayed in the middle of tank equidistant from front and back and sides, also equidistant between floating plants and rooted plant tops. As if giving themselves max escape time incase of predators.
Johnny despite being smallest (we thought youngest but maybe unhealthiest?) was the first to break ranks and explore, going down amongst plants n rocks n caves then back up to the others as if reporting back.
Mrs Lurch loved him for this and he instantly became her favourite. She wanted fish who would be recognisably different so could be named but at the moment wishes they weren’t.
Anyway 13 days is a new record for me. Can’t see us getting any more guppies unless there’s arguments between the three remaining. I can’t remember any 70s guppies dying on me.

Aaaah well there’s a tank to be sorted.
Bye Bye Johnny.
 
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I’ll do a gravel vac and 15L (1 bucket) water change with no salt so as to not alter water parameters too quickly.
The bully and his brother seem to be starting on johnnys brother now. Chasing him all around the tank constantly. I foolishly got two each from different tanks in same shop on the same day. Hmmm. My mistake. Same tank or nothing from now on.

Ill do the gravel vac and keep an eye on them for a few days.
 

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I'm sorry you lost him, rest in peace, Johnny. It's lovely how quickly you and Mrs. Lurch got attached, but I know the feeling, it's so sad when you lose one. I don't have any useful advice I'm afraid, I hope the others make it, just wanted to share my condolences.
 
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Others seem very healthy. Possibly too healthy.
Johnnys brother Buster now seems to be getting the hassle Johnny got from the other two after three or four days in the tank. They’re on his case a lot. Roger being the worst as he seems to break off hassling Buster to give Finbar a piece of his mind occasionally.
I thought guppies were peaceful fish? I suppose there’s always the exception. Mrs Lurch doesn’t like him at all. He’s a bully.
If this carries on I may buy a big breeding basket thing and sling Roger in there for a while. If things then calm down between the two remaining outside then Roger may be going back to the LFS. It’s not nice to watch....twice.
 
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Bullying calmed down recently.
Unfortunately johnnys brother Buster is now sporting a huge prolapse as shown in pics.
If it’s a physical thing that’s inherited there seems to be nothing I can do. It took Johnny about five days from first showing to the end. No more guppy’s in this house.
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