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Just out for the day with the family and popped into one of the LFS that I kind of trust, I say kind of as I have seen issues in there over the years and heard mixed things but generally good for a local store but not to the standards I'd expect of my usual haunts like Wharf which is a bit further away but the store I regard as my local :).

Anyway, saw they had some Red Lizard Whiptails in and decided I was going to go for it, been on my list for the tank for a while and meet my current requirements and future requirements (when I switch to RO) and I'm a bit bored now of having no fish and they looked decent quality and the fish room looked really good so thought I'd go for it. For what its worth I have no reservations about adding fish, the tank has been set up for months its a nutrient rich environment there is tons of life in there I've got Amano Shrimp in there but also got populations of fresh water limpets, few pest snails, water fleas and some detritus worms which is an interesting aside but shows its a fertile mature tank. I can also see a rise in nitrates week on week - not loads, less than 5ppm over my tap but thats also with plants growing in there using some of it, crediting this with the fact that not all my plants are 100% successful I also have some new crypts in there that are melting (as expected). But it shows that I have bacteria colonies to supplement the plant growth in processing any ammonia produced. I'd obviously be testing water daily too and responsing imediately if I had to with large water changes.

Anyway, the long and short of it was that as soon as I said they were the first fish in the tank, they switched off and wouldnt sell me the catfish. Which I sort of respect but, then said I should start with a school of Tetras. Which is kind of my problem here, wouldnt listen to who I was as a keeper, not interested in anything I say but happy to sink me into (based on what they knew) a fish in cycle with a school of Tetras in a hard water area... So the respect I gained for them in terms of a welfare concern, they lost by suggesting an IMO greater welfare concern.

Which led me to feel like this...



Wills
 
Just out for the day with the family and popped into one of the LFS that I kind of trust, I say kind of as I have seen issues in there over the years and heard mixed things but generally good for a local store but not to the standards I'd expect of my usual haunts like Wharf which is a bit further away but the store I regard as my local :).

Anyway, saw they had some Red Lizard Whiptails in and decided I was going to go for it, been on my list for the tank for a while and meet my current requirements and future requirements (when I switch to RO) and I'm a bit bored now of having no fish and they looked decent quality and the fish room looked really good so thought I'd go for it. For what its worth I have no reservations about adding fish, the tank has been set up for months its a nutrient rich environment there is tons of life in there I've got Amano Shrimp in there but also got populations of fresh water limpets, few pest snails, water fleas and some detritus worms which is an interesting aside but shows its a fertile mature tank. I can also see a rise in nitrates week on week - not loads, less than 5ppm over my tap but thats also with plants growing in there using some of it, crediting this with the fact that not all my plants are 100% successful I also have some new crypts in there that are melting (as expected). But it shows that I have bacteria colonies to supplement the plant growth in processing any ammonia produced. I'd obviously be testing water daily too and responsing imediately if I had to with large water changes.

Anyway, the long and short of it was that as soon as I said they were the first fish in the tank, they switched off and wouldnt sell me the catfish. Which I sort of respect but, then said I should start with a school of Tetras. Which is kind of my problem here, wouldnt listen to who I was as a keeper, not interested in anything I say but happy to sink me into (based on what they knew) a fish in cycle with a school of Tetras in a hard water area... So the respect I gained for them in terms of a welfare concern, they lost by suggesting an IMO greater welfare concern.

Which led me to feel like this...



Wills

In situations where I know they are going to ask me about my stock and tank size I just lie lol
 
In situations where I know they are going to ask me about my stock and tank size I just lie lol
Same here...well, used to, anyway....the mom and pop I go to now (fairly regularly) never suggest doing fishless cycles to people buying fish, and when I suggested it to the owner, she just gave me a blank stare, lol...they DO give a written handout to the new fish keepers on fish-in cycling, but I've never looked at it....after speaking a bit with the owner about my tanks and fishkeeping, she'll ask ME questions occasionally, lol....good people though, and I don't miss the "box stores" one bit....
 
Its not something I'd advocate but... I wish she would have just listened to my answers rather than asuming I knew nothing, they did have a 10 min slot in the fish room but we really hadnt been in there that long so wouldnt have been an issue...

I wont be going back unfortunately, there are three fish shops on that side of town all on a row in garden centres and I used to enjoy whiling away a morning between them. This was the last I felt viable but to quote Parks and Rec again. Dunzo!

Luckily theres a new LFS set up by the manager of one of the previously good stores right near my house now, they just have slightly frustrating opening times but I'll manage :)
 
Its not something I'd advocate but... I wish she would have just listened to my answers rather than asuming I knew nothing, they did have a 10 min slot in the fish room but we really hadnt been in there that long so wouldnt have been an issue...

I wont be going back unfortunately, there are three fish shops on that side of town all on a row in garden centres and I used to enjoy whiling away a morning between them. This was the last I felt viable but to quote Parks and Rec again. Dunzo!

Luckily theres a new LFS set up by the manager of one of the previously good stores right near my house now, they just have slightly frustrating opening times but I'll manage :)
At least you have several options. I live in a small city, which has a small chain general pet store with a couple rows of fish (3 locations) and a Petco. Both have given decent advice in general, but poorer advice on stocking, I think. I usually go to one of the two stores an hour south of me, if I want specific fish, guaranteed (just about) to be healthy.
 
At least you have several options. I live in a small city, which has a small chain general pet store with a couple rows of fish (3 locations) and a Petco. Both have given decent advice in general, but poorer advice on stocking, I think. I usually go to one of the two stores an hour south of me, if I want specific fish, guaranteed (just about) to be healthy.
Agree 100%, so many options with that many stores nearby....to have that many fish available

And curious where the OP lives, no location in his/her public profile....wink, wink, Wills ;)
 
Agree 100%, so many options with that many stores nearby....to have that many fish available

And curious where the OP lives, no location in his/her public profile....wink, wink, Wills ;)

Haha! I dont think I keep it a secret, I'm from Hull, East Yorkshire, UK. If anyone who didnt know that also knows the area you will probably be able to work out the shops I am talking about haha!

Wills
 
Haha! I dont think I keep it a secret, I'm from Hull, East Yorkshire, UK. If anyone who didnt know that also knows the area you will probably be able to work out the shops I am talking about haha!

Wills
Google Maps is my friend, as are you!

Cheers...this pint's on me :beer:
 

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