Best Fish For Top Dwelling

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i have whats in my signature but will be minus the cockatoos.

there is not much action in the top-middle of the tank.

does anyone have any ideas of real decent looking fish that wont get eaten by my pictus, i was thinking some sort of panchax
 
Hatchet fish are true top dwellers... as for whether they would be safe or not is up to you :D
 
Golden Wonders could work with that stocking, nothing looks like live lunch in the making in the 300l. From my experience with these, I would highly recommend a group of five or six with just one male, as my male gives the two females very little peace and has recently been setenced to a few weeks back in the 560l after nipping at their fins when they are not intrested in spawning.

Alternatively, you could do a group of four or five African Butterfly Fish, depending upon how bonkers your current fish are at the water surface at feeding time... Lots of mad action will stress them out horribly.
 
I've found there are very few true top dwellers.

Hatchetfish (my favs, I've got 18 marble hatchets and I love them to bits, but even they tend to drop down to the top third once they feel secure, and they mature), gouramis, (sort of) some of the livebearers and danios are the nearest you'll get.

Maybe killies, but I know zero about them.
 
Alternatively, you could do a group of four or five African Butterfly Fish, depending upon how bonkers your current fish are at the water surface at feeding time... Lots of mad action will stress them out horribly.

i feed pima as almost all my fish feed from the bottom so maybe butterfly fish are an option. they do freak me out though,

do you think i have room for more than say 2 or 3 though?
 
If you have plenty of floating plants to break up the water surface into territories, four is very possible, but you could play it safe and stick to no more than three. I have two ABFs and three (normally) Golden Wonders sharing the top of my Rio240.
 
If you have plenty of floating plants to break up the water surface into territories, four is very possible, but you could play it safe and stick to no more than three. I have two ABFs and three (normally) Golden Wonders sharing the top of my Rio240.

so it is possible to have some panchax and butterfly fish?

i have read that you need to drop the water level by 6" and have dull lighting for the butterfly fish, is this 100% true? as my lighting is pretty bright on my tank and i would prefer not to drop the water level down.
 
I keep my Rio240 normally about an inch below the max water line without issues, but then I've seen local fish stores and read about having the bigger gap above the water. I think I've read that in the wild (where there are two different groups that have different DNA going back ~65 million years ago), these fish will actively jump out of the water to try and catch flying insects.

Lighting is something that currently concerns me, as my Rio240 came with the T5HO 108W setup, which I want to change for a dimmer T8 setup with those purply "tropical" type tubes. The tank receives some mid-afternoon direct sunlight (when "sunny" Southampton weather permits), so I only turn on the lights for a maximum of 6 hours a day, to keep the Echinodorus ("rose"?) plants happy, which the ABFs tolerate without showing signs of stress (in the evening I make sure the room's light is on when the T5s are switched off for a more gradual darkening). Something you could do is use suction cups to secure a few small pieces of bogwood around the water level having tied a small Anubias variety (eg. barteri nana) to each piece (these plants grow at the water's edge in Africa, but they tolerate being submerged in aquariums) to provide shady spots.

Your tank is larger than my Rio240, so yes, you could combine ABFs and GWPs. Both species can be kept as singles, but they both also have a semi-social nature and yet males of both species are spiteful to competition.

In addition, like I wrote yesterday, male GWPs often harrass the females, so hareem setups help to give each female a stress break (as does lots of upper water line-of-sight breakers with plants and/or furniture so the females can hide). I started with three females and a male last summer and sadly woke up one morning to find a dead female, but I have no idea what happened, as at that point my male was being relatively well behaved (unlike recently where he was nipping females). A couple of months later, having emptied the tank for my aggressive Lionhead Cichlid parents, I was amazed to discover three ~1cm babies over the course of a couple of days. They were hiding in the Red Root Floater jungle, but I moved them into a breeding net, where a single beautiful boy survived (they were quite nasty with each other, perhaps three boys) to ~4cm and I then rehomed him to somebody local.
 

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