Banded Dwarf Loach

[lilfishie]

Has anyone got any experience with Banded Dwarf Loaches? i am planning a new tank for my Female Betta and i am liking the look of these guys.

Any experience/requirements?

Do they eat snails?

 

[onebto]

Has anyone got any experience with Banded Dwarf Loaches? i am planning a new tank for my Female Betta and i am liking the look of these guys.

Any experience/requirements?

Do they eat snails?

Never kept them in fact I have never seen them in a LFS but they look great looking Loaches I have read a bit on them.

I have never kept Betas so do not know if they would go well in a tank with a Betas water requirements as I understand it Banded loach Requirements are subdued lighting Temp 22 to 25, PH 6.0 to 7.0, sand substrate well planted tank and a max dh of 12.

Foods Frozen baby brine shrimp, daphnia, and cyclops also try small sinking pellets,granules, micro pellets, and crushed flake in fact anything that is small or crush up what's big, as for snails I am not sure they are quite a small loach at a maximum size of 1.5 inches so if they go for snails it would make them a popular choice I would imagine they would go for snail eggs

Hope this helps if you get some please post pictures

Regards onebto

 

[lilfishie]

they sounds ideal for my sub tropical tank the temp is at 24 wit Pygmy Cory and Wild Bettas that are much more peaceful. the tank has sand is planted with plenty of bogwood and has lots of floating plants which block the light out. Might get some in there and move my Trilii Cory to the Betta tank

Thanks onebto thats a great help, and will definately get pictures if/when i get some

The only reason i asked about snails is i have a group of Assassins in that tank, i could always move them out though

 

[Carlovel1]

I have a group of 6 of these loaches. From what I know, they appreciate waters of 28C with a very high current. My tank has snails and no, in the few months I've had them, they haven't eaten any snails. Apart from snails, they pretty much anything. Looking at your 15G stocking, you seem fully stocked though, and these fish require both high temps, which your pleco & corys would like, and they need high current that your Bettas don't like.

 

[lilfishie]

Really? i have since read they prefer little current? my plec and cories also prefer cooler temps thats why there in this tank rather than my community with the others (tank is actually at 24/5 anyway)

i was planning on moving the 9 Trilii cories out into a new tank (once cycled of course ) and adding 6 of these instead

 

[Carlovel1]

Really? i have since read they prefer little current? my plec and cories also prefer cooler temps thats why there in this tank rather than my community with the others (tank is actually at 24/5 anyway)

i was planning on moving the 9 Trilii cories out into a new tank (once cycled of course ) and adding 6 of these instead

Nope they love high current. They come from fast flowing warm rivers. And they like to swim against current, hence why they are called 'Hovering Zebra Loach'

 

[BigTom]

Really? i have since read they prefer little current? my plec and cories also prefer cooler temps thats why there in this tank rather than my community with the others (tank is actually at 24/5 anyway)

i was planning on moving the 9 Trilii cories out into a new tank (once cycled of course ) and adding 6 of these instead

Nope they love high current. They come from fast flowing warm rivers. And they like to swim against current, hence why they are called 'Hovering Zebra Loach'

Read up on these a while ago and seem to remember most of the literature claiming they came from quiet stream margins with relatively slow flow. Got any links for your info? Ta

 

[onebto]

Really? i have since read they prefer little current? my plec and cories also prefer cooler temps thats why there in this tank rather than my community with the others (tank is actually at 24/5 anyway)

i was planning on moving the 9 Trilii cories out into a new tank (once cycled of course ) and adding 6 of these instead

Nope they love high current. They come from fast flowing warm rivers. And they like to swim against current, hence why they are called 'Hovering Zebra Loach'

The stuff I have read says and I quote "In the wild, Yunnanilus cruciatus are found in the shallow, relatively still parts of rivers packed with dense aquatic vegetation"

further more "Known only from the coastal rivers of Central Vietnam from An Lao river (Binh Dinh province) to Phong Nha river (Quang Binh province)".


This resource comes from a species specific website namely loaches that I must say I respect quite highly I have never read anything on there disputed any were else,

I must say I have always found your input on this forum useful and informative and 100% correct that's why I am wondering if we are talking about 2 different species?

Scientific name: Yunnanilus cruciatus (Rendhal 1944)

Nick names: Vietnamese Multi Banded Zebra Loach, Hovering Zebra Loach.

Recomended tempreture: 77-82ºF (25-28°C)

Of course this does not mean that if we are talking about the same species yours are not enjoying the high current in your tank they may of adapted to it well?

Source

Regards onebto.

 

[Carlovel1]

Really? i have since read they prefer little current? my plec and cories also prefer cooler temps thats why there in this tank rather than my community with the others (tank is actually at 24/5 anyway)

i was planning on moving the 9 Trilii cories out into a new tank (once cycled of course ) and adding 6 of these instead

Nope they love high current. They come from fast flowing warm rivers. And they like to swim against current, hence why they are called 'Hovering Zebra Loach'

Read up on these a while ago and seem to remember most of the literature claiming they came from quiet stream margins with relatively slow flow. Got any links for your info? Ta

The importer of these told me these come from fast flowing rivers. I think its Y.brevis he said, don't like too much flow. Not to mention, when these were in quarantine, they were always swimming infront of the filter outlet

 

[Carlovel1]

I must say I have always found your input on this forum useful and informative and 100% correct that's why I am wondering if we are talking about 2 different species?

I am talking about Y.cruciatus.
One of mine below

Known only from the coastal rivers of Central Vietnam from An Lao river (Binh Dinh province) to Phong Nha river (Quang Binh province)

The waters won't be very calm if they are near the coast, would they?

I'm not saying they like crazy turbulant waters live Hillstream Loaches...but they like high flow to swim against

 

[Carlovel1]

double post

 

[helterskelter]

This is just a photo i took on of one at a fish show last year.
Stunning fish.

I kepet mine quite cool, at around 70f with just a sponge filter. Great little fish and one worth keeping. I sold mine on though.

 

[lilfishie]

Well if i was to get them i would have 3 choices on where to put them

60l Planted, Mid flow at 75f
115l Heavy planted, slow/mid flow at 80f
125l Planted, High flow at 82f

There certainly some great looking fish

 

[Carlovel1]

The 125L tank.
It seems quite overstocked though.
What are you going to add to the 115L?

 

[onebto]

I must say I have always found your input on this forum useful and informative and 100% correct that's why I am wondering if we are talking about 2 different species?

I am talking about Y.cruciatus.
One of mine below

Known only from the coastal rivers of Central Vietnam from An Lao river (Binh Dinh province) to Phong Nha river (Quang Binh province)

The waters won't be very calm if they are near the coast, would they?

I'm not saying they like crazy turbulant waters live Hillstream Loaches...but they like high flow to swim against

I have never been there so to be honest I would not be comfortable saying such a thing

Great looking Loach and picture

Regards onebto