Anyone Ever Made One Of These

[erk628]

http/www.cichlid-forum.com/articles/ug_jets.php I was thinking about doing it on my 150 gallon that I'm planning a mbuna tank. Has anyone every done this on there tank it looks like it would really work good.

 

[didz04]

Thats really good I haven't done it but won't mind try it out one day which will keep my white sand. The only problem is that I have silico sand which moves quite easily when my fish swim by fast, so all the sand could get moved to one side and a lot of it in the filter.

 

[Mikaila31]

Have not tried it, but have heard good things about it. Just be aware that with water flowing through the gravel you will have more good bacteria living there then normal. If you run a tank like this removing all of the gravel at once could have negative effects. Its NOT a downside IMO, just something to be aware off.

 

[erk628]

Would I need to use gravel or could I use sand or a african cichlid substance?

 

[Mikaila31]

Would I need to use gravel or could I use sand or a african cichlid substance?

I think anything but sand should work.

I also should of read that link fully. IMO it would be easier to use UGF trays and uptakes, but just flip the powerhead over so it shoots in the uptake. Basically a reverse UGF.

 

[erk628]

Would I need to use gravel or could I use sand or a african cichlid substance?

I think anything but sand should work.

I also should of read that link fully. IMO it would be easier to use UGF trays and uptakes, but just flip the powerhead over so it shoots in the uptake. Basically a reverse UGF.

With this setup though I could have the pipes pointing in all sorts of directions to make sure there wasnt a single dead spot in the whole tank. I dont know how a UGF works I've never had one. When you said anything but and would work did you mean sand wouldnt work?

 

[Mikaila31]

Here is how a UGF works normally. There is a raised try on the bottom of the tank. Then gravel over top of it and uptake pipes to which a pump is attached.

In a normal UGF the pump pulls water through the gravel, into the tray then up the pipe and back into the tank. The gravel is the filter medium with these filters. The issue with running a UGF the normal way is that it pulls waste under the tray where it is hard to remove.

With a reverse UGF you just flip the pump around so water goes down the pipe, into the tray, and is then forced up through the gravel and back into the tank. IMO it seems much easier than running a ton of pipes under the gravel and should actually provide a better coverage to remove all dead spots.

Sand may work with the pipe method, with a reverse UGF it won't as the sand will go through the bottom tray. You could try laying some fine mesh on top of the tray to try to keep the sand out of it...

 

[erk628]

Here is how a UGF works normally. There is a raised try on the bottom of the tank. Then gravel over top of it and uptake pipes to which a pump is attached.

In a normal UGF the pump pulls water through the gravel, into the tray then up the pipe and back into the tank. The gravel is the filter medium with these filters. The issue with running a UGF the normal way is that it pulls waste under the tray where it is hard to remove.

With a reverse UGF you just flip the pump around so water goes down the pipe, into the tray, and is then forced up through the gravel and back into the tank. IMO it seems much easier than running a ton of pipes under the gravel and should actually provide a better coverage to remove all dead spots.

Sand may work with the pipe method, with a reverse UGF it won't as the sand will go through the bottom tray. You could try laying some fine mesh on top of the tray to try to keep the sand out of it...

I think the force from the pipes would be better though wouldnt it? The reason I was looking at doing that was to keep uneating food and poo off the substance and the pipes would blow it into the path of the filter to be sucked up.