Alternative treatment?

[Tokis-Phoenix]

Basically for the last couple of weeks i've been treating my fish for internal bacteria with the Interpet treatment which, in the past has treated my fish very effectively but it seems now i am fighting a never ending battle. The symtoms of the fish include white stringy poo and skinnyness and clamped fins, its only effecting one platy now but the other one who had it died a couple of minutes ago which i had been treating for 2weeks.
Water stats are 0 ammonia and nitrites with 13 nitrates...
Im positive its internal bacteria but the interpet med seems to be working less and less well and im worried im getting a med resitant strain of the desease and would like to try any alternative treatments to see if they clear up the parasite faster, does anyone know of any?
Thanks for your time

 

[Tokis-Phoenix]

Oh, and i live in England

 

[reg2k2]

Might try Pimafix.

 

[Tokis-Phoenix]

Thanks loads do you know anything else about the med- does it effect the biological filter at all?

 

[reg2k2]

No, it shouldn't. Same makers as Melafix, liquid in bottle.
By the same token, not an actual medicine...but as you say, perhaps a change will help. It helped my pleco when he was having problems (refusal to eat).

 

[Tokis-Phoenix]

Thans loads again i'll go see if i can find some at my lfs now

 

[WILDER]

Tokis the internal bacteria med wouldn't cure internal parasites anyway, there are no med that cure internal parasites in the uk, only one but it helps conrtol them rather than cure, pig worming tablets if you can get them, apart from that nothing to be done sometimes it's better to put the fish down rather than it infect the whole tank.

 

[WILDER]

http/www.skepticalaquarist.com/docs/health/nematodes.shtml

 

[WILDER]

Camallanus are red worms that can be seen protruding from the anus of the fish, especially after eating and when the fish is at rest. From what I’ve seen, livebearers and Gourami seem to be the most susceptible to it. It is very difficult to treat and multiplies using an invertebrate as a host. Destroy infected fish and medicate to (hopefully) kill hosts and larvae. (or you can tear down your tank, sterilize your equipment, and start over). If you leave exposed fish in the tank, wait a few months before adding new fish.

 

[Tolak]

Hey Wilder, hate to get off subject, but I didn't know that the meds for internal parasites were that limited in the UK. Here in the US, there are plenty of meds for that.

You seem to know quite a bit about meds & availability, I think it would be a good idea to get together a list of available & unavailable medications for different areas/countries. I would suggest Paranox in this situation, but I don't know if it is available overseas.

If you could post a link to a site that has most of the meds available in the UK, I could check to see if folks can get any meds I may suggest in the future.

Tolak

 

[WILDER]

There is only one med in the uk and it dosn't cure them only helps control them, i've heard alot of people using pig worming tablets and even alot of americans seem to use them as well, with my husband parents having a farm he no's alot of pig farmers but they have them injected now, so i can't even get hold of pig worming tablets, only other choice is to phone a vet and see if they can come up with something, tryed cat worming tablets myself didn't work on camallanus worms hard to shift as some pit bull plecs had them, had to put two down went down hill, fast, put all fish in a spare tank, and striped the whole tank down, sterlised everything, manage to save the other pibull plec and the rest of the fish due to this, all are still fine that happened about 2 months back, no signs of worms orl long stringy white poo since.

 

[Tokis-Phoenix]

Camallanus are red worms that can be seen protruding from the anus of the fish, especially after eating and when the fish is at rest. From what I’ve seen, livebearers and Gourami seem to be the most susceptible to it. It is very difficult to treat and multiplies using an invertebrate as a host. Destroy infected fish and medicate to (hopefully) kill hosts and larvae. (or you can tear down your tank, sterilize your equipment, and start over). If you leave exposed fish in the tank, wait a few months before adding new fish.

Geez...
I remember asking on here ages ago wether internal bacteria and parasites were the same thing and i was replied "yes" so thats why i've been treating my fish with the Interpet med...
This is a real bummer cos the only infected fish(a platy) is real proper breeding quality fish and im going to realy hate putting her down- she's white with green metallic sheen and dark blue mickey mouse symbol on her tail .
Im not sure if i'd go for pig worming tablets though unless i can get more info on them- never heard of them been used as a fish med before.

 

[WILDER]

Tryed this but it didn't work.
http/www.waterlife.co.uk/seaquariums/sterazin.htm

 

[WILDER]

If you do get hold of them i would never recommend putting them in the main tank, just an issolation tank, then it's noing the dosage, i heard americans even using horse worming tablets.

 

[WILDER]

Tolak thanks, i no there are quite a few meds in the states, not so lucky over here, won't let us have them only probably through a vet.