cowgirluntamed
Fish Herder
Ok...for those that have been following some of my latest posts...i now have another dilemma. For those that haven't followed, I will briefly recap.
5.5 gallon betta tank at the time with one betta and 3 nerite snails. Planted.
I dealt with cyanobacteria. I used the ultra life blue green slime stain remover twice. (Waited a week between doses.) Dwarf sag mostly died, anubias Nana Golden's were ok, and the crypt wendtii was still amazing. I bought some floating water sprite and water lettuce. Added it to the tank. (Sometime in May I think?) Honestly during this time my betta would get an occasional "cyst" like thing either around his lip or on his head. One appeared at a time and would go away on its own within a few days. I wasn't sure what to make of it.
Then one day, he got Popeye. Not a clue how, kept the water clean(0 ammonia,0 nitrite, 5-10 nitrate), no medicine, and it went away within a week. Maybe a week or two later and I notice Hydra...
This was around the end of June. So, after looking at a lot of treatments...and having just set up a 10 gallon quarantine tank for new baby plecos, I decided to move him and his snail friends in it(still had just over a week till I got the babies). I turned the filter and light off and poured 16oz of hydrogen peroxide into the tank. I wasn't feeling well so left it for a full 24 hours and then cleaned out the filter and got everything running again. I did an almost 100% water change(including the filter) and added carbon. It ran that way for a week.
Unfortunately my floating plants did not survive, my anubias plants melted(may be dead-unsure) and my crypts melted but are thankfully growing back. I also removed a ton of the dwarf sag and trimmed up some of it to replant to see if it was salvageable(probably not at this point).
Anyway, a couple of days before putting him back in the tank he had another cyst. Didn't last long. Put them all back in the 5.5 gallon. Kept having to clean out dead plantz and I think my ammonia went up due to losing the bacteria colonies to the h2o2. I had added half a bottle of tetra safe start when I out him back but not sure it really worked.
Anyway....no more Hydra!! But....a new problem. My snails started acting weird and staying above the spray bar all grouped together....they were getting wet thankfully but didn't want to be in the tank. I stared and stared...worms!!! It ended of being a nasty type of planaria. I posted that thread in the 14th. I finally decided to do the dog dewormer. I planned on doing this Tuesday, the 16th.
Unfortunately, this is the morning my betta got dropsy. First signs...still thought it was the planaria. I wormed the tank with the dog dewormer as directed. After a day the snails came down but my betta wasn't getting better.
I lost him on Thursday, the 18th to dropsy. *Sniffs*. (I think these plants may have brought other parasites that were causing him probs that I couldn't see as well as the pests that I saw.)
The next day, I did a 2nd dose of wormer(I had not done a water change). Well...i forgot to do a water change even after the 2nd dose due to not wanting to see the tank much since my betta died. Though..i finally went in there and noticed a snail on its back. I righted it and he moved a bit. The other day...another was almost in its back so I fixed him. At that point I noticed they werent moving much. I actually centered them in the sand so I could see. Well, they hadn't moved so Tuesday(the 23rd) I did just over a 50% water change.
No movement unless it's a bit after I tap them.
I added carbon Thursday morning. Still nothing.
I just bought some seaweed wrap for sushi as this was suggested in another thread to feed them to see if maybe they were hungry.
I placed that in the tank this morning and got it to stay down. I put the snails on it and they all just sort of moved to the edge and are still again.
I tested the water yesterday quickly and the ammonia was 0.25, 0 nitrite, 5 nitrate. I just bought some national geographic bioballs to put in my filter hoping more bacteria can grow and get that ammonia down.
Anyway, I will test the tank again tomorrow morning before I put the media in and post the results again. I still have carbon in there and will leave it for a time.
Do you think I messed up when I didn't do the water change after the wormer? Or could this be something else. No fish in the tank now. Or pests that I can see. The dont seem to want to go up the walls, just want to stay flat on the sand and not move.
Should I just leave them and see what happens? Should I add aquarium salt for them?(if so, how much? At least I know they won't mind salt seeing as how they breed in brackish water). Or should I out them in a plastic tote that I have with absolutely clean water(I could add some driftwood) and a heater and see what they do in that?? Any of these ideas sound good to you guys??
Thanks for listening guys. I don't want to lose my cool little friends! (And to think...i thought these things were weird at first and I was kinda grossed out! Lol.)
5.5 gallon betta tank at the time with one betta and 3 nerite snails. Planted.
I dealt with cyanobacteria. I used the ultra life blue green slime stain remover twice. (Waited a week between doses.) Dwarf sag mostly died, anubias Nana Golden's were ok, and the crypt wendtii was still amazing. I bought some floating water sprite and water lettuce. Added it to the tank. (Sometime in May I think?) Honestly during this time my betta would get an occasional "cyst" like thing either around his lip or on his head. One appeared at a time and would go away on its own within a few days. I wasn't sure what to make of it.
Then one day, he got Popeye. Not a clue how, kept the water clean(0 ammonia,0 nitrite, 5-10 nitrate), no medicine, and it went away within a week. Maybe a week or two later and I notice Hydra...
This was around the end of June. So, after looking at a lot of treatments...and having just set up a 10 gallon quarantine tank for new baby plecos, I decided to move him and his snail friends in it(still had just over a week till I got the babies). I turned the filter and light off and poured 16oz of hydrogen peroxide into the tank. I wasn't feeling well so left it for a full 24 hours and then cleaned out the filter and got everything running again. I did an almost 100% water change(including the filter) and added carbon. It ran that way for a week.
Unfortunately my floating plants did not survive, my anubias plants melted(may be dead-unsure) and my crypts melted but are thankfully growing back. I also removed a ton of the dwarf sag and trimmed up some of it to replant to see if it was salvageable(probably not at this point).
Anyway, a couple of days before putting him back in the tank he had another cyst. Didn't last long. Put them all back in the 5.5 gallon. Kept having to clean out dead plantz and I think my ammonia went up due to losing the bacteria colonies to the h2o2. I had added half a bottle of tetra safe start when I out him back but not sure it really worked.
Anyway....no more Hydra!! But....a new problem. My snails started acting weird and staying above the spray bar all grouped together....they were getting wet thankfully but didn't want to be in the tank. I stared and stared...worms!!! It ended of being a nasty type of planaria. I posted that thread in the 14th. I finally decided to do the dog dewormer. I planned on doing this Tuesday, the 16th.
Unfortunately, this is the morning my betta got dropsy. First signs...still thought it was the planaria. I wormed the tank with the dog dewormer as directed. After a day the snails came down but my betta wasn't getting better.
I lost him on Thursday, the 18th to dropsy. *Sniffs*. (I think these plants may have brought other parasites that were causing him probs that I couldn't see as well as the pests that I saw.)The next day, I did a 2nd dose of wormer(I had not done a water change). Well...i forgot to do a water change even after the 2nd dose due to not wanting to see the tank much since my betta died. Though..i finally went in there and noticed a snail on its back. I righted it and he moved a bit. The other day...another was almost in its back so I fixed him. At that point I noticed they werent moving much. I actually centered them in the sand so I could see. Well, they hadn't moved so Tuesday(the 23rd) I did just over a 50% water change.
No movement unless it's a bit after I tap them.
I added carbon Thursday morning. Still nothing.
I just bought some seaweed wrap for sushi as this was suggested in another thread to feed them to see if maybe they were hungry.
I placed that in the tank this morning and got it to stay down. I put the snails on it and they all just sort of moved to the edge and are still again.
I tested the water yesterday quickly and the ammonia was 0.25, 0 nitrite, 5 nitrate. I just bought some national geographic bioballs to put in my filter hoping more bacteria can grow and get that ammonia down.
Anyway, I will test the tank again tomorrow morning before I put the media in and post the results again. I still have carbon in there and will leave it for a time.
Do you think I messed up when I didn't do the water change after the wormer? Or could this be something else. No fish in the tank now. Or pests that I can see. The dont seem to want to go up the walls, just want to stay flat on the sand and not move.
Should I just leave them and see what happens? Should I add aquarium salt for them?(if so, how much? At least I know they won't mind salt seeing as how they breed in brackish water). Or should I out them in a plastic tote that I have with absolutely clean water(I could add some driftwood) and a heater and see what they do in that?? Any of these ideas sound good to you guys??
Thanks for listening guys. I don't want to lose my cool little friends! (And to think...i thought these things were weird at first and I was kinda grossed out! Lol.)
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