Why Bother With Fishless Cycle ?

[Axleuk]

tempting...

enfield is the nearest in my place - but stil a 40mins drive - 17miles in all
but if it really does the job then why not - - - my kids buggin me every
minute - - about the fish - - -

and worse even my wife if being impatient about it - -
i'll give them a call tomorrow if they have it in stock..

thanks for the infos...

If you do decide to try Bactinette, i would advise not to get a lot of fish straight away. Whilst the results have been in my favour so far, i still only put a few Dwarf Gouramis in to start off with. However, these may not be the best fish to start off with due to them not being as hardy as other species.

I would also recommend you take along a small cooler box to keep the Bactinette as cool as possible. I know the container is very small but keeping it cool will guarentee they are transported without to much fear of the bacteria dying.

Keep us posted on your progress. I myself will be interested to read your results and i am sure others will be too.

 

[Efren]

will do - thanks

i noticed that Mil Hill and Wembley is in your List as well
these are rather more convinient places for me to go -
Enfield is a bit far - - so i've got more chances of
bringing them home safely in short journey

i'm planning of inruducing 2 fishes first in the tank
then we'll see how it goes - - but i'm planning
to do a few tests before i really put the fish in - -
i just bought an API master kit and i'm a bit excited to
use it to be honest - (newbie's sign)

i'll put the result here as soon as i'm done - -
hoping that it would lead me to the right direction - -

 

[Axleuk]

will do - thanks

i noticed that Mil Hill and Wembley is in your List as well
these are rather more convinient places for me to go -
Enfield is a bit far - - so i've got more chances of
bringing them home safely in short journey

i'm planning of inruducing 2 fishes first in the tank
then we'll see how it goes - - but i'm planning
to do a few tests before i really put the fish in - -
i just bought an API master kit and i'm a bit excited to
use it to be honest - (newbie's sign)

i'll put the result here as soon as i'm done - -
hoping that it would lead me to the right direction - -

Update:

Just tested my water again and i am happy to report that my levels have not changed at all. Things are looking good but i will continue to monitor and report the results here.

 

[Efren]

that's good news - -
and i've got good news too!!!

i manage to locate a maidenhead aquatics branch who stocks bactinettes - -
i'm about to give up the search when Wembley and Enfield gave me the bad news that
they don't stock it - - -

then whoooaaalllaaa!! Mill Hill has it..
So i'm off to Mill Hill this Weekend - -

 

[minxfishy]

Efren if you want to go down the bactinettes route, thats fine, but to be on the safe side, why not simulate the adding of fish by using household ammonia? Add the bactinettes, then add ammonia to 5ppm, as you would a fishless cycle, see how quickly the bactinettes work, then for a further week keep adding the ammonia, when both ammonia and nitrite are 0 within 12 hours of adding the ammonia, then it is safe to assume the bactinettes worked.

For the extra cost 0f £2.00 for the ammonia, it will be worth it to ensure that when you do add fish, you know the tank is safe. Just my opinion. I know the kids are keen to have fish, but do you really want to see them upset if the fish die shortly after adding them because the tank wasnt cycled?

 

[rabbut]

Efren, there is at best a 50-50 chance of it working, so don't risk fish with it untill you have tested it using liquid ammonia as per fishless cycling for a week I have heard of about 4 people whom have used this product. Two it worked for, and Axle is one of them, for the other two it hasen't. A great deal of it's success is down to storage, shipping and the date of production. If any of them wasn't right all the time (as is often the case) then there will be issues. Just a heads up, in case you missed it in the above posts.

Bactinettes is one of the better supliments, but it isn't infalable unfortunately, hence why it isn't recomended as a substitue for fishless cycling.

All the best
Rabbut

 

[Axleuk]

It is wise to simulate the ammonia with 5ppm first before putting in the fish, may take a few days and even if your result are good like mine have been, only add a few fish at a time. Also bear in mind that you cannot overdose the fish with Bactinette so i would recommend you pick up two bottles but only use 1 bottle to start with and keep the other bottle in the fridge as a backup. I didnt need it but its handy to have and its normally only £5 per 100 litre dose.

Good luck and we all look forward to reading your progress.

 

[Efren]

Efren if you want to go down the bactinettes route, thats fine, but to be on the safe side, why not simulate the adding of fish by using household ammonia? Add the bactinettes, then add ammonia to 5ppm, as you would a fishless cycle, see how quickly the bactinettes work, then for a further week keep adding the ammonia, when both ammonia and nitrite are 0 within 12 hours of adding the ammonia, then it is safe to assume the bactinettes worked.

For the extra cost 0f £2.00 for the ammonia, it will be worth it to ensure that when you do add fish, you know the tank is safe. Just my opinion. I know the kids are keen to have fish, but do you really want to see them upset if the fish die shortly after adding them because the tank wasnt cycled?

thanks for the advise = i'm very sure that fishless cycling is the best route to a successful community tank
but the pressure my kids givin me... and count my wife as well.. lol... but fortunate enough -
my wife is reading your reply right now so it gives her an idea how important to cycle your tank
she thought that keeping fish is like letting dogs runnin around your garden -

didn't have the chance to get the ammonia today -
got stucked washing the car - - but i assure you that i'll go with your advise - - BIG THANKS -

@rabbut

thanks for your concern mate..
i'm aware about it - just trying some
shortcuts - "family pressure" LOL
but shortcuts as you've said is a RISK
so i'm sure i'm gonna test it First if it really works as Minxfishy stated
before gettin the fish - -

@axleuk

yup looking forward to it - - cheers!

 

[OldMan47]

Efren, fish is a lot like getting that dog. You just don't do it until you have a good healthy place for them to live and you have everything they need. This includes having the finances and desire to continue to care for them after the first week.

 

[Axleuk]

Well, good news, i have just tested the water again and it is holding the stats well.

I have also added some guppys.

So far so good

 

[Efren]

that's great axleuk - -
i'll check your updates always - -

can't post mine yet - -
the delivery of my API master TK
is taking so long - -it should be within
2-3 working days as stated on their website..

better give them a call...

i manage to get the ammonia at homebase though - -
and bactinettes probably tomorrow -

 

[aaronnorth]

the only problem doing it this way is that even tho u may have some bacteria from the stuff u used it mite not be established enough 2 cope with the amount of waste fish & food produced so yes u mite have the ammonia drop in 24 hrs but with the extra crap from the fish and food u mite get ammonia and nitrite spikes which is not good for ur fish


jen

stock lightly and feed every other day to start with, no harm then, i used them and they are great, but i added a mature sponge just to make sure - they did help as just the 1 sponge would of helped a tiny amount on a large tank.

 

[Axleuk]

that's great axleuk - -
i'll check your updates always - -

can't post mine yet - -
the delivery of my API master TK
is taking so long - -it should be within
2-3 working days as stated on their website..

better give them a call...

i manage to get the ammonia at homebase though - -
and bactinettes probably tomorrow -

I feel like i am all alone in my quest to get the Bactinette word out, so it will be interesting to hear how you get on.

I have searched the net on other fish forums and its looks like there are a lot of other people that have had success with it which is very encouraging.

 

[Efren]

i believe in possibilities - -
and also in a trial and error method - -

how can i learn new things without exploring any?

besides i believe that there's a substitute for almost everything - -



i'll post my own journal once i begin my course --

 

[damianhucker]

hi to all who have posted here , i work in a ashop in which we sell an extreme amount of bactinettes , just thoght id point out that we only recommend adding a small amount of hardy fish after a week of having the tank set up and put bactinettes in same day as adding new fish , such as danios , we only recommend feeding every couple of days , this way pollution only builds up at a slow rate so the bactinettes can cope with it whilst it helps to establish the bacteria in your filter , we keep it in a fridge behind the counter (which was provided by soll who make bactinettes) and we always say it must be used same day due to temperetaure fluctuations , i am not claiming that bactinettes is the savior of fish keeping but what i am saying is its the most efective product of its kind on the market , we tested it in store and it knocked the spots off cycle and the api one (stress coat or zyme i always get the 2 confused ) and as for tetra's safestart , well that made the nitrite worse not better , of course differnt water parameters can effect the results but to bactinnettes is an extremely good product that got my vote in pfk shop vote product of the year .