White Spot?

[neilw_uk]

Hi,

I have a brand new tank and purchased 2 kissing Gouramis the other day. They seemed fine, but however i noticed today that they both have white spots on their fins.

Below are the pictures i have taken:

If it is i am going to be pi##ed, as i purchased a clown loach from the same place for another tank i have and that has white spot and just wiped out half my tank!!!

I have not cross contaminated these two tanks in any way so i can dismiss that theory if its white spot.

I also have sand in this tank, but it does not look like stand stuck on their fins... I have 3 other Gouramis and they look at the moment.

Any feed back would be great before i call the shop tomorrow and gave them s##t !


Thanks,


Neil

 

[SkiFletch]

If they're the only fish in there and you are SURE you didnt cross-contaminate, then you may have gotten a raw deal. That looks like textbook whitespot (Ich). The good news is that it seems to be in the earlier stages, so if you start treating right away you may be able to save the Gourami. Good luck

 

[neilw_uk]

Cheers for the quick response... I reckon the whole shop is infected!!!!

So your recommendation would be to start using Protozin straight away?

 

[AaronD]

hmmm, doesnt look good

i had a similiar problem a little while ago. I bought 2 dawarf gouramis for the community tank and both died a few days later of mouth rot. They passed it onto my kissing gouramis and mollys, who sadly died later on as well. I could not treat it quickly enough with the right medicine so couldnt contain the outbreak. Anyway, the long and the short of it is that i went back to the LFS, and well what do you know, the tank with the dwarf gouramis were being treated for a heavy case of mouth rot.

I discussed this with one of the staff, and he got quite defensive and i didnt really get anywhere. I just had to leave it at that really. But i made sure the people around me were aware of the many poorly fish.

Best thing is to discuss with someone whos reasonable and see what they think if you belive that the white spot was present when you bought them. Whatever you do, dont fall out if this is your regular LFS.

 

[jolaf]

Ahhhh you got the ich. treat immediately to save your beauties Crank up the temp, take out the charcaol and medicate em. Hmmm cant tell I have had ich cnan ya

Hi,

I have a brand new tank and purchased 2 kissing Gouramis the other day. They seemed fine, but however i noticed today that they both have white spots on their fins.

Below are the pictures i have taken:

If it is i am going to be pi##ed, as i purchased a clown loach from the same place for another tank i have and that has white spot and just wiped out half my tank!!!

I have not cross contaminated these two tanks in any way so i can dismiss that theory if its white spot.

I also have sand in this tank, but it does not look like stand stuck on their fins... I have 3 other Gouramis and they look at the moment.

Any feed back would be great before i call the shop tomorrow and gave them s##t !


Thanks,


Neil

I got the same response. We have the best fish in town. Well, I can tell you that any fish I have gotten from that petco lfs has given everyone else ich sooner rather than later. I know found a petsmart that I drive 20 miles to get to i know their fish are wonderful. It is worth it to me and my tank.

Good Luck

hmmm, doesnt look good

i had a similiar problem a little while ago. I bought 2 dawarf gouramis for the community tank and both died a few days later of mouth rot. They passed it onto my kissing gouramis and mollys, who sadly died later on as well. I could not treat it quickly enough with the right medicine so couldnt contain the outbreak. Anyway, the long and the short of it is that i went back to the LFS, and well what do you know, the tank with the dwarf gouramis were being treated for a heavy case of mouth rot.

I discussed this with one of the staff, and he got quite defensive and i didnt really get anywhere. I just had to leave it at that really. But i made sure the people around me were aware of the many poorly fish.

Best thing is to discuss with someone whos reasonable and see what they think if you belive that the white spot was present when you bought them. Whatever you do, dont fall out if this is your regular LFS.

 

[tttnjfttt]

I agree with the other posters that it is most likely ich. I noticed you said it was in a new tank. How big is this tank? Did you cycle the tank before adding the fish? What other tank mates are there? Also, you need to check the ammonia and nitrite levels in the tank. Fish usually become sick when they are stressed, and one very common cause is bad water.

 

[neilw_uk]

The tank is 155L. I did a test and all the levels were fine to add fish. The tank was running for about a week or so and i added stress zyme to start things off. So i would hope things are ok.. In the tank there is a red dwarf and two blue Gouramis.

I have started treatment and i will have to see what happens. I will call the LFS today and ask them nicely what they can do about it. If it comes to it i will take the little buggers back... I am just sick of bad stock from this place. its meant to be the best for miles around (its near Salisbury if anyone knows it) but at the moment its killed 6 fish in my old tank and now this!

 

[tttnjfttt]

You do need to re-test the water once you begin having problems. What do you mean by the levels were "safe"? Also, there is no such thing as a safe ammonia level or safe nitrite level, other than zero. Stress zyme won't add the beneficial bacteria that are needed to break down the waste.

When you re-test the water, please post the exact results, not just safe.

 

[jolaf]

This is kind of off the topic of ich but I have a green barb in my tank. My questionis that do you think a few blue gouramis would be ok with that barb? Also, and elephant nose. I was thinking of getting that this weekend. I have a 30 G soon to upgrade to a 95 g. I have four red eye tretras, chinese algae eater, ghost shrimp and the green barb so far.

The tank is 155L. I did a test and all the levels were fine to add fish. The tank was running for about a week or so and i added stress zyme to start things off. So i would hope things are ok.. In the tank there is a red dwarf and two blue Gouramis.

I have started treatment and i will have to see what happens. I will call the LFS today and ask them nicely what they can do about it. If it comes to it i will take the little buggers back... I am just sick of bad stock from this place. its meant to be the best for miles around (its near Salisbury if anyone knows it) but at the moment its killed 6 fish in my old tank and now this!

 

[WILDER]

Good luck there so cute.

 

[willtang3000]

well if you don't know what it is accurately at the momment get some aquarium tonic salt it treats all the things people have suggested just get those fish out of there and put them in a hospital tank so no others can get infected

 

[neilw_uk]

You do need to re-test the water once you begin having problems. What do you mean by the levels were "safe"? Also, there is no such thing as a safe ammonia level or safe nitrite level, other than zero. Stress zyme won't add the beneficial bacteria that are needed to break down the waste.

When you re-test the water, please post the exact results, not just safe.

Hi tttnjfttt,!

I just tested my water and things have changed!!!

Results:

Ammonia = 0.8 mg/l

NitrIte = 1.5 mg/l

NiteAte = 50 mg/l

PH = 8.5


My two kissing now have serious white spot and are just sitting at the bottom. They also seem to have cloudy eyes. By blue dwarfs seem to have caught it too and looks like one is about to kick it..

Any ideas what i should do?

I am still treating with Protozin at the moment.

Thanks,

Neil

 

[WILDER]

Cloudy eye is a symtom of a deseae so it with having the whitespot, are they still bad with it, as parasites when bad can also cause bacerial infections.

 

[neilw_uk]

It’s almost like the fish are covered in slime. When they sit on the bottom they get sand stuck to them.

I have just done a 20% water change and will pop to the LFS tomorrow and see if they have anything to help the water levels.

This white spot is a real pain in the ass... I only just got rid of it in another tank and lost 10 fish and 2 frogs in the process!!!! There's £50 down the toilet!!!


Neil

 

[WILDER]

Not the writer of this information below.
Slime Disease- There are various types of protozoa which can cause these symptoms, and they are treated in similar ways. The different parasites are Costia (Ichtybodo), Cyclochaeta (Trichodina), and Chilodonella (being the most resistant) . Once the disease has spread to the gills, it is at its deadliest form, and could prove fatal to the fish. Symptoms: frayed fins, sluggishness, dulled coloration, damaged gills, and even death. Treatment: There are many medications available to help with this illness. It is a good idea to treat the main tank to ensure that you have removed all traces of the harmful parasite from the tank! While treating the tank leave the filters running but remove any activated carbon from the tank or you will just remove any medication you have placed in the water. If the Slime disease does not clear up after following directions and use of a medication, it is most likely the Chilodonella strain and additional action must be followed. Try giving your fish a bath in salt mixed with water. If no results are occurring you may try asking a veterinarian for information on using a bath of water and formalin. The reason: a more knowledgeable person needs to assist is the fact that the fish could experience more adverse problems if the product is not administered correctly!