White Spot Everywhere

[WILDER]

He does have quite a far few spots on him.
If he's not darting arund and laboured breathing he's ok for now.
Must get the med fast as the parasite infest the gills and that when they die.
Keeping my fingers crossed for them all.

 

[Maxta]

Ok i lost the final black sail cory.

My cherry barbs arent looking good, and i cant see my clown.

Just added my first dose of interpet anit-whitespot. It was in a different kind of box to the usual treatments, wonder if its a new improved treatment, or just a new style box. Wow the stuff stains, turned my tank water bluey, it must be good stuff because iv never had to dissolve it in warm water first and it says dose every 4 days.

I only added half the recommended dose as you said Wilder, wow my tank would be very blue if it was a full dose. The jug i dissolved it in has stained blue lol and i washed it straight after.

Iv turned my air pump on high and stuck some oxygenating tablets in (i know people say theyre pointless, but they were cheap and no harm).

 

[Bungy]

I had a very bad time with White-Spot recently - mainly due to not following the "fishless-cycle" in a new tank (big mistake) - bad water, spikes during the cycle and stress brought on a plague of ICH. I treated with eSHa EXIT and also used in conjunction with this an all-round medication eSHa 2000 recommended by the LFS as I had signs of Fin Rot also - both may be used at the same time. The water turns Green for a few days but hey you have to get rid of the ICH. It is deff worth following the life cycle of the ICH to better understand how to treat it but im told that whilst the fish are showing the spots it is untreatable however these drop off and lay on the bottom for a few days then hatch into around 1000 microscopic free swimming Tomites looking for a fresh host fish to latch onto - This is when the meds do their stuff - without it the tomites burrow into the flesh of its host then manifests itself as another white spot ready to start the cycle all over again - so you can see how rapidly this spreads throughout the tank. Increasing the tank temp to around 80 speeds up the hatching cycle of the tomites from around 5 to 3 days. Having started using the Meds I treated for 3 days, day 1 a full dose then half doses thereafter BUT whilst much improved, the white spot was still visible on several fish - the LFS advised continuing the treatment at half dose until all was clear - this took a staggering 10 days but im now totally clear. This wasnt cheap either as my tank holds 70G (377L) and I didnt have quarantine facilities at the time to treat a smaller tank. I have replaced the Carbon filtration in order to scrub the Meds from the water and for the first time my tank is now looking good with healthy fish.

Hope my story helps.

 

[Maxta]

A few of my barbs are looking worse for wear, but my Clown Pleco hasnt seemed to deteriorate and is acting normal - hopefully i can save him at least.

Did any of your fish that had whitespots on them, survive? Any at all?

My heater is rather annoying, its a Juwel one and i have to turn it right up before it comes on, kinda sucks i need a new one - doesnt have a dial on to tell you what temperature itl be going upto, you just have to try and see.

PS. Lost another neon tetra.

 

[Bungy]

Sorry to hear about your losses - Yes I did lose several fish - all 13 Cardinals which were the first to succombe, 2 Guppys, 1 Platty, 3 Clown loach, 4 Ruby Nose tetra's, and worst of all I accuired a beautiful fully grown Albino Angel after I though the ICH had cleared up - sadly it too became a victim (badly in fact). Half of my stock didnt actually get the spot, most of those that did actually survived - the spots became apparent on other fish over a period of several days but by that time I had already started using the Meds so the spots never really got a hold. To start off with however it was really bad and I was gutted to loose so many fish.

Keep the meds going is the only advice I can give but to pass on the advice from the LFS, dont mix the meds, start with one and continue to the bitter end - therefore check that you can actually use your medication over a prolonged period. I changed my water as often as possible also - roughly 20% every 3 days or so and making sure I gave the sand a very good hoovering to try and capture the white spot cysts that had dropped off awaiting the next stage of hatchment.

Hope this helps.

 

[Maxta]

Im just wondering. For my tank i need to add approximately 10ml of interpets anti white spot. But Wilder says to only dose half of that due to my corys etc (so im only dosing 5ml). The instructions say to dose every 4 days and change the water after a week.

Since im only dosing by half, does it mean i can dose every 2 days (5ml)? A question Wilder may be able to answer, but anyones welcome if they know their stuff. Or will this still be too much for my corys and plecs to handle?

Another question is that my cherry barbs seem to be lingering near the surface the past few hours that i have turned it upto 28oC. Why could this be? They dont seem to be gasping for air, just peacefully swimming or staying stationary near the surface quite alot, they do occasionally wander off around the tank, further down at points. I have my air pump pumping out bubbles via my bubble curtain, i threw in a bout 6 oxygenating tablets this morning and my spray bar is agitating the water surface.

Surely its not because the waters too warm, because wouldnt they be near the bottom? Plus most websites state the temperature for cherry barbs to be 28oC.

 

[WILDER]

Some fish don't handle parasite meds at all neon tetra's are very funny with whitespot meds.
No don't add another dose in 2 days follow the instructions.
It will take longer at half dose.
I would say up the dose to 3 quarters but some of the fish seem to be having problems with being near the surface, it could be the med or the parasites have infested the gills.

 

[Maxta]

Okay.

Il up to 3/4 dose next time.

Lost a cherry barb.

Fish infections, parasites and diseases suck Iv lost so many fish.

 

[WILDER]

Only had whitespot once and I didn't lose a fish to it thank god.

 

[Bungy]

Only had whitespot once and I didn't lose a fish to it thank god.

Probably down to prompt action. Im now hyper aware in all my tanks of ANY signs of white spot - I guess if you suspect a blemish on a fin for example is ICH - get the MEDS in there and then, dont wait - TREAT EARLY before it gets chance to gain a hold.

I strongly suspect that my WhiteSpot was down to bad water during the cycling process which initially stressed the fish - a common reason for White Spot to develop, however the introduction of more fish over a several week period could easily have brought the disease in from the LFS. This only ads credence to having a separate Quarantine / Hospital tank if at all possible. I was lucky enough to obtain a second free 4 foot tank/filter/pump - I bought some glass and partitioned the end - it has its own totally independent bio system from the rest of the tank (fry tank) and ANY new fish now go in there for several days until im satisfied that they are clear of disease and are well enough to go into my main community tank. It is so much easier and less costly to treat a smaller 50L tank than my main 377L (70G). I now treat the quarantine tank as a matter of course with eSHa 2000 and eSHa EXIT as soon as a new fish arrives.

 

[Maxta]

I lost another cherry barb throughout the night. Ugh.

Clown Pleco seems to be doing fine, no further whitespots or unusual behaviour. My remaining cherry barbs still have whitespot. My two baby bristlenoses, bolivian ram, 2 ottos and 2 peppered corys dont have any white spots.

 

[WILDER]

R.I.P.
Hope the rest get through it.

 

[Maxta]

And another

 

[Bungy]

And another

Stick with the meds - it WILL eventually clear up but sadly as you are finding you WILL have fish losses.

 

[Maxta]

And another. Only got 2 cherry barbs left now, if that. And ones hiding in the plant, dang!

On the good side my Clown Pleco is looking better (fingers crossed).

Il keep treating for as long as it takes, just feels as though im doing nothing because the doses need to be every 4 days, second dose on saturday.