Whats Wrong With All My Fish?

[fish nutter]

i have 250 ltr, 54 gal (aprox) and all of my 12 rummynose tetras are hiding under a rock with pale-ish noses along with there black and white flecks on tail. ammonia is 0pp, nitrite is 0 ppm and nitrate is about 6 ppm. i have a few live plants and rocks, a plastic ornament + a eheim jager 150w heater (set at 25 degrees celcius / 77 degrees fahrenheit) along with a eheim pro 3 2073 filter. i do not dose tank with anything apart from stress coat + stress zyme (dout it does anything but it wont hurt) when doing a 30% water change once a week.

Help is appreciated... thanks

 

[BethK]

Can you take a photo of the fish for us?

 

[fish nutter]

yea ok

 

[fish nutter]

EDIT: sorry about the quality...

 

[kaivalagi]

How long have you had the rummy's in there? 4-5 months ago?
When did then start hiding? Has there been any decor/planting changes?
At first glance I would say get some more plants in there, the rummy's may want more cover to feel like roaming about more freely...
The fish look fine to me, still more red on the nose than some I've seen

posted on your identical topic in the other section too...

 

[fish nutter]

when i first got the tank i let it sit 4 about 4 days then got 10 rummynoses, none died. about 2 1/2 months later i decided to get 5 more. they lasted for about 2 days before 1 died, one day later i woke up and another one had died, and again 1 after that. thay all seemed to have large eyes. i thought of pop eye but decided if there was another death i would treat the tank. but no more deaths , i came to the conclusion of a big PH change as i did a 30% water change after 2 weeks without touching the tank. fish have been doing this behavior for about a week. I had a heater problem and got it looked at for three days. i got a loan shi**y heater from the shop as a replacement. it seemed that in the three days of having the other heater the temperature dropped by about 2 degrees Celsius. Since the deaths i have been doing irreguler water changes more often but less volume (3 buckets instead of 7 as i thought the PH would change too much).

Thanks

Yes will get plants today.

 

[kaivalagi]

What pH is your tap water? like wise what's your tanks? It may not be ideal for the fish but I think it is more about any pH swing than anything else. The fish seem okay based on their colouration though.

I'd also recommend getting some wood in there, it would look nice, and may bring the pH down a little too...if not then it will still look good!
Might be nice to have a black background on that tank too, those rummy's will contrast nicely against it, if they venture out

p.s. you need to close down one of these topics you have...ask the admin to merge the two maybe?

 

[fish nutter]

My tap PH is 7.6 and tank PH is 7.4. I agree i will get some bogwood (will let it soak for a while).

Thank you for your help, most appreciated

 

[kaivalagi]

My tap PH is 7.6 and tank PH is 7.4. I agree i will get some bogwood (will let it soak for a while).

Thank you for your help, most appreciated

So the pH has dropped from the tap level, not much in it between the two either, I would just do daily water changes of about 30% until things seem to improve...

 

[fish nutter]

My tap PH is 7.6 and tank PH is 7.4. I agree i will get some bogwood (will let it soak for a while).

Thank you for your help, most appreciated

So the pH has dropped from the tap level, not much in it between the two either, I would just do daily water changes of about 30% until things seem to improve...

so if i get bogwood won't that change the PH even more so when it comes time to do a water change the fish will stress out because of the change in PH?

thanks

 

[ShoC]

I have never had an issue with Ph during water change. Also you tap and tank are closely matched so ur not even going to get a swing of 1.0


When you turn the lights off after a while do the come out of hiding?
If they do you might finds its to do with lack of hiding places/shade. Adding more hiding places will make them feel safer

 

[fish nutter]

I have never had an issue with Ph during water change. Also you tap and tank are closely matched so ur not even going to get a swing of 1.0


When you turn the lights off after a while do the come out of hiding?
If they do you might finds its to do with lack of hiding places/shade. Adding more hiding places will make them feel safer

yes they do!! i bypassed this as a theory as my LFS said that they go into a sub-sleeping state (no idea what is is called) but now that i think about it your theory makes a lot more sense. Thanks

 

[ShoC]

Glad to help. If memory serves correct. Not checked ur tetra breed but a vast quantity come from black water so they are used to it not being so bright.
I purposely have lots of bog wood and let the tannins Leach into my tank. It lowers Ph and makes my tanks brow. Search for blackwater biotope. Not only is it nice its also natural for them

 

[fish nutter]

someone suggested to turn off one light tube... do you think it is the light that is making them act like this? I know i have quite strong bulbs - 8000K and 18000K. just wanted to have another opinion.

Thanks

 

[ShoC]

It will be the brightness.
Don't confuse the colour range 18k etc as power.
The brightness is the wattage kill one bulb see hot it works as mentioned I have tannins purposely to subdue the lighting levels