sharky bhoy
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hi there fish tank is going all cloudy and green any answers on how to cure this thanks
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this tank will not be cycled and be able to cope with the fish. do you have a water test kit? if not i suggest you go get one asap. test the water every day for ammonia and nitrites and if above 0 then a water change is essential to reduce the levels, a 50% water change will reduce the levels by half so you will need to work out what % changes are required to keep the fish alive. also the silver sharks are too big for the tank so i would rehome them or take them back and i dont reccommend keeping 2 rainbow sharks in a tank that small as they may not have enough room as they are teritorial. the neons will be lucky to survive in an uncycled tank as they prefer a stable tank and water level and the goldfish needs cold water not heated as trops need also it will be too messy to keep in that tank along with the others, they need alot of room and poo alot. sorry to tell you this but if i didnt others will have......
there is a pinned topic on here about cycling a tank for fish please read it and take the right way for your time and capabilities
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thanks very much for advice will buy test kit tomorrow advice i have had has been crap from the very start about setup and what fish i could add to tank thanks again cheers darrenthis tank will not be cycled and be able to cope with the fish. do you have a water test kit? if not i suggest you go get one asap. test the water every day for ammonia and nitrites and if above 0 then a water change is essential to reduce the levels, a 50% water change will reduce the levels by half so you will need to work out what % changes are required to keep the fish alive. also the silver sharks are too big for the tank so i would rehome them or take them back and i dont reccommend keeping 2 rainbow sharks in a tank that small as they may not have enough room as they are teritorial. the neons will be lucky to survive in an uncycled tank as they prefer a stable tank and water level and the goldfish needs cold water not heated as trops need also it will be too messy to keep in that tank along with the others, they need alot of room and poo alot. sorry to tell you this but if i didnt others will have......
there is a pinned topic on here about cycling a tank for fish please read it and take the right way for your time and capabilities
no worries Darren, fish shops are there to make money so if fish die you will be back to buy more.... also who else would you get advice from with your first tank. now you have found this forum dont be affraid to ask any questions no matter how basic or complex and no matter on what topic, may it be fish stocking to cycling to plants to feeding etc etc etc etc the list goes on. find fish you like and do some research on them before buying as you could end up in trouble with nipping or even dead fish as the water isnt right for them.thanks very much for advice will buy test kit tomorrow advice i have had has been crap from the very start about setup and what fish i could add to tank thanks again cheers darrenthis tank will not be cycled and be able to cope with the fish. do you have a water test kit? if not i suggest you go get one asap. test the water every day for ammonia and nitrites and if above 0 then a water change is essential to reduce the levels, a 50% water change will reduce the levels by half so you will need to work out what % changes are required to keep the fish alive. also the silver sharks are too big for the tank so i would rehome them or take them back and i dont reccommend keeping 2 rainbow sharks in a tank that small as they may not have enough room as they are teritorial. the neons will be lucky to survive in an uncycled tank as they prefer a stable tank and water level and the goldfish needs cold water not heated as trops need also it will be too messy to keep in that tank along with the others, they need alot of room and poo alot. sorry to tell you this but if i didnt others will have......
there is a pinned topic on here about cycling a tank for fish please read it and take the right way for your time and capabilities
with your test kit also test the pH and try to select fish that will live well in this to reduce further stress etc on the fish, although alot of fish will adapt in time sometimes its just not worth the risk. also consider tank temp as all fish have a level they are happy in so dont get higher temp fish with low temp fish.
dont be affraid to ask and if i were you i would return the sharks and the goldfish to the shop you bought them from. the neons may die in an uncycled tank so it may be worth returning them as they are still alive... if you want to do a fish in cycle then there are hardier fish to use for this method, it will mean big water changes everyday though for a few weeks im affraid!
good luck, Matt.
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cheers Matt for taking time to explain starting to make a little sense looks like a lot of water changes ahead thanks for ur time and great advice cheers Darren.no worries Darren, fish shops are there to make money so if fish die you will be back to buy more.... also who else would you get advice from with your first tank. now you have found this forum dont be affraid to ask any questions no matter how basic or complex and no matter on what topic, may it be fish stocking to cycling to plants to feeding etc etc etc etc the list goes on. find fish you like and do some research on them before buying as you could end up in trouble with nipping or even dead fish as the water isnt right for them.thanks very much for advice will buy test kit tomorrow advice i have had has been crap from the very start about setup and what fish i could add to tank thanks again cheers darrenthis tank will not be cycled and be able to cope with the fish. do you have a water test kit? if not i suggest you go get one asap. test the water every day for ammonia and nitrites and if above 0 then a water change is essential to reduce the levels, a 50% water change will reduce the levels by half so you will need to work out what % changes are required to keep the fish alive. also the silver sharks are too big for the tank so i would rehome them or take them back and i dont reccommend keeping 2 rainbow sharks in a tank that small as they may not have enough room as they are teritorial. the neons will be lucky to survive in an uncycled tank as they prefer a stable tank and water level and the goldfish needs cold water not heated as trops need also it will be too messy to keep in that tank along with the others, they need alot of room and poo alot. sorry to tell you this but if i didnt others will have......
there is a pinned topic on here about cycling a tank for fish please read it and take the right way for your time and capabilities
with your test kit also test the pH and try to select fish that will live well in this to reduce further stress etc on the fish, although alot of fish will adapt in time sometimes its just not worth the risk. also consider tank temp as all fish have a level they are happy in so dont get higher temp fish with low temp fish.
dont be affraid to ask and if i were you i would return the sharks and the goldfish to the shop you bought them from. the neons may die in an uncycled tank so it may be worth returning them as they are still alive... if you want to do a fish in cycle then there are hardier fish to use for this method, it will mean big water changes everyday though for a few weeks im affraid!
good luck, Matt.
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Hello sharky bhoy and welcome to our beginners section!
Excellent for Matt to give it to you straight right off! I would agree, your various bits of advice have been way, way off from reality. But your luck has changed as you've now stumbled across a true hobbyist forum and a good one at that!
Yours may be one of those few cases where a startover would be the best thing if your LFS would take back or hold some of the fish for you. You never had access to the info that the filtration system of an aquarium takes a couple of months usually to be prepared before its ready to operate with fish, otherwise you are simply doing major damage to their gills and nerves or watching them die.
As mentioned, goldfish are coldwater, rather than tropical and are really best suited usually for ponds, so the goldie is an obvious choice for inclusion in the first group to somehow exit your tank. Sometimes members are successful finding friends who keep goldfish ponds. In many LFSs the whole half of the tanks where the sharks, plecos and big cichlids are kept is really a place beginners should look and enjoy but not buy! In many cases, the successful tank with the sharks for instance would be a huge tank dedicated to only them and they would be in a fairly large group or would have territorial space, depending on species. We have any number of members who frequent our beginner section who will be able to supply you with as many details by species as you'd like usually.
The neon choice is also unfortunate, as stated, because these fish are notorious for needing to be introduced only after the tank has clocked up six months of running time, regardless of how long it took to cycle the filtration system. Barbs can also be difficult to mix with neons and many others. Depending on particular species, barbs in low numbers like 2 will run around nipping other fish to death (not literally, just saying they drive them a bit crazy at times.)
OK, enough bad news. The good news is that the members here are great at teasing out a good plan in these situations and they will no doubt help you. Getting a good liquid-reagent based water testing kit is very important for the beginner learning experience, regardless of which way you go with the tank. Many of us like and use the API Freshwater Master Test Kit, although there are others that can work too. Just do not buy paper strips for testing. A good gravel cleaning siphon cylinder is quite a basic tool too. Water changes are going to become your friend, but you need to learn how to do them with good technique.
Anyway, glad you've arrived and good luck!
~~waterdrop~~
Excellent for Matt to give it to you straight right off! I would agree, your various bits of advice have been way, way off from reality. But your luck has changed as you've now stumbled across a true hobbyist forum and a good one at that!
Yours may be one of those few cases where a startover would be the best thing if your LFS would take back or hold some of the fish for you. You never had access to the info that the filtration system of an aquarium takes a couple of months usually to be prepared before its ready to operate with fish, otherwise you are simply doing major damage to their gills and nerves or watching them die.
As mentioned, goldfish are coldwater, rather than tropical and are really best suited usually for ponds, so the goldie is an obvious choice for inclusion in the first group to somehow exit your tank. Sometimes members are successful finding friends who keep goldfish ponds. In many LFSs the whole half of the tanks where the sharks, plecos and big cichlids are kept is really a place beginners should look and enjoy but not buy! In many cases, the successful tank with the sharks for instance would be a huge tank dedicated to only them and they would be in a fairly large group or would have territorial space, depending on species. We have any number of members who frequent our beginner section who will be able to supply you with as many details by species as you'd like usually.
The neon choice is also unfortunate, as stated, because these fish are notorious for needing to be introduced only after the tank has clocked up six months of running time, regardless of how long it took to cycle the filtration system. Barbs can also be difficult to mix with neons and many others. Depending on particular species, barbs in low numbers like 2 will run around nipping other fish to death (not literally, just saying they drive them a bit crazy at times.)
OK, enough bad news. The good news is that the members here are great at teasing out a good plan in these situations and they will no doubt help you. Getting a good liquid-reagent based water testing kit is very important for the beginner learning experience, regardless of which way you go with the tank. Many of us like and use the API Freshwater Master Test Kit, although there are others that can work too. Just do not buy paper strips for testing. A good gravel cleaning siphon cylinder is quite a basic tool too. Water changes are going to become your friend, but you need to learn how to do them with good technique.
Anyway, glad you've arrived and good luck!
~~waterdrop~~
no problems Darren thats what we are all here forcheers Matt for taking time to explain starting to make a little sense looks like a lot of water changes ahead thanks for ur time and great advice cheers Darren.no worries Darren, fish shops are there to make money so if fish die you will be back to buy more.... also who else would you get advice from with your first tank. now you have found this forum dont be affraid to ask any questions no matter how basic or complex and no matter on what topic, may it be fish stocking to cycling to plants to feeding etc etc etc etc the list goes on. find fish you like and do some research on them before buying as you could end up in trouble with nipping or even dead fish as the water isnt right for them.thanks very much for advice will buy test kit tomorrow advice i have had has been crap from the very start about setup and what fish i could add to tank thanks again cheers darrenthis tank will not be cycled and be able to cope with the fish. do you have a water test kit? if not i suggest you go get one asap. test the water every day for ammonia and nitrites and if above 0 then a water change is essential to reduce the levels, a 50% water change will reduce the levels by half so you will need to work out what % changes are required to keep the fish alive. also the silver sharks are too big for the tank so i would rehome them or take them back and i dont reccommend keeping 2 rainbow sharks in a tank that small as they may not have enough room as they are teritorial. the neons will be lucky to survive in an uncycled tank as they prefer a stable tank and water level and the goldfish needs cold water not heated as trops need also it will be too messy to keep in that tank along with the others, they need alot of room and poo alot. sorry to tell you this but if i didnt others will have......
there is a pinned topic on here about cycling a tank for fish please read it and take the right way for your time and capabilities
with your test kit also test the pH and try to select fish that will live well in this to reduce further stress etc on the fish, although alot of fish will adapt in time sometimes its just not worth the risk. also consider tank temp as all fish have a level they are happy in so dont get higher temp fish with low temp fish.
dont be affraid to ask and if i were you i would return the sharks and the goldfish to the shop you bought them from. the neons may die in an uncycled tank so it may be worth returning them as they are still alive... if you want to do a fish in cycle then there are hardier fish to use for this method, it will mean big water changes everyday though for a few weeks im affraid!
good luck, Matt.
just another thing, when doing water changes make sure the water is temperature matched with your tanks temp so not to shock the fish with too much of a difference in temperature. also add water dechlorinater at the required amounts to rid the new water of any chlorine, chloramine and heavy metals etc etc that will be in your tap water as chlorine will destroy any bacteria growing in the filter
good luck and please ask away with anything you want to know or are unsure of
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