Warm & Cold Water

[Jamz]

Hi There,

Think this may be my first post on the forum (been regesterd a while and have just been browsing the forum)

Anyway, ive just purchased a new 20gallon tank and have it all set up... now, i have 4 gold fish in my old tank which i want to move to my new tank, but im now debating on the idea of getting some tropical fish also.

Would i be able to mix the gold fish with tropical fish.... yes i know that gold fish are cold water and tropical fish are warm water.... i tried a search on google and it came up with mixed results.... more or less 50/50 yes and no... so im confused.... can i put the gold fish in with tropical fish?

I know i would have to get the gold fish used to the water (gradually raising the temp)

I will be putting pictures of the tank setup shortly once i get some plant life in there, aswell as a nice little rockery.

Many thanks

James

 

[orange shark]

you can put goldfish in with tropicals but it shortens their lifespan and weakens there immune system

 

[djultimate]

I would say no , am no expert by far , though a family member decided to add his 2 large goldfish into his tropical tank , they were way overactive swiming around constantly like there fins had been burnt ...

He has since took them out and back into a coldwater tank

 

[Mikaila31]

Yep keeping goldies in warm water speeds up there metabolisim which shortens their life span. The high temps make them more suseptiable to disease.

 

[Jamz]

So yea you can, but it will more then likley kill them... think ill keep it cold then.... Cheers for your help...

 

[Corleone]

Looks like you already decided against it, but another consideration is their diet. There's a reason that there's separate foods for goldfish and tropicals, and it would be hard to get all the fish their appropriate feeding. Also, goldfish potentially get bigger than a good many tropical community fish, and you're likely to start seeing small tankmates disappear eventually.

 

[JenCliBee]

lol everybody has forgotten 2 tell u aswell goldfish grow very big 2 so 20 gallon wont be big enough for them in the long run and they also produce alot of waste so majorly over filtering is a big must


jen

 

[orange shark]

yeah forgot to mention that!

The rule for goldfish is 20g for the 1st goldfish then an extra 10 for another etc. so for 4 you will need a 50g

 

[Jamz]

I was looking at getting one of them external filters, but wasnt too sure how you get everything into the tank. I see some people have a hole in the bottom of the tank, which the external filters then come in through there... but where do you get that done at?

 

[dave1987]

you could have a plec with them

 

[JenCliBee]

you could have a plec with them

y and a plec in a coldwater setup i doubt it very much


jen

 

[orange shark]

people keep butterfly plecs in coldwater setups

but you can only keep 1 goldfish in a 20 gallon as they are massive waste producers, you could probably get away with 2 if you were overfiltered

 

[dave1987]

there is a couple of fish tanks that i have seen with plecs and goldfish in i beleive u just heat the tank up to about 22-24c

 

[JenCliBee]

there is a couple of fish tanks that i have seen with plecs and goldfish in i beleive u just heat the tank up to about 22-24c

NO! i mean where did that anwser come from lol y a plec with g/f was it because of they are big waste producers? if so they wont eat waste/etc?

was just curious y u sugested a plec lol

people keep butterfly plecs in coldwater setups

may well do but it prefers warmer waters!!! so its not ok 2 keep coldwter fish in a tropical setup but it's ok 2 keep tropical fish in coldwater setup? hmmm bit confused now lol oh well prob just me


jen

 

[dave1987]

lol just suggesting a fish to keep with them i think there is only a few plecs that are ok in colder water but they are the same as goldfish in tropical tanks they survive but do better in there own prefered set up