Very Angry At "award Winning" Lfs

OldMan47 · Aug 22, 2008

If you follow the ich link in my signature it gives some in-depth information. Both what ich is and how they recommend to treat it.

raptorrex · Aug 23, 2008

Miss Wiggle said:
OldMan47 said:

Must disagree with you MW. White spot, ich, is a parasite. It is not caused by stress nor by having weak fish. It is caused by having the parasite present when there are fish present who can contract it. Most of my tanks are free of it. One I am not ceratin about because the fish have been in there less than a week and I haven't given it time to be noticed yet, that's quarantine time. A properly quarantined fish put into a disease free tank will never develop ich no matter how much stress it sees. I know you are quite a knowledgeable hobbyist but this myth of ich existing everywhere just waiting on a weak fish is pure unadulterated bunk.

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i wouldn't call myself knowledgeable, but i'm always willing to learn more.

disease's isn't my forte (perhaps i've been lucky, i've not actually had to contend with many incidences) but it is pretty well known that panda's are quite tricky to acclimitise so I would believe that the stress would be enough to bring on some illness, things like fin rot often crop up when fish are stressed out and i've heard of a lot of things like this in panda's just after a move or some other similar stress.

i've seen a lot of people say they've had fish which have previously been healthy and gone through some sot of stress/trauma and then pick up ich when there's been no new additions to the tank or anything like that which could bring it in.

just anecdotal but it's lead me to believe fish are either more susceptible to contracting it when stressed or that it can develop under stressful conditions.

if you've some evidence to say otherwise i'd be happy to see it.

i agree here.
there is good evedence, though not conclusive that ICK is in many, if not most tanks. fish tend to go down with it when they are ill or stressed, this seems to depleat their slime coat allowing the parasite to be more effective when it is breeding. one fish infested will, eventually lead to the defences, of healthy fish being defeated, and you suddenly have an outbreak. sure we do sometimes put infested fish in out pride and joy. but it seem equally clear that you can have an outbreak, without adding any stock. quarantine is the answer, in this case, if nothing else it allows you to know your new fish is in good nick before you put it in.