Thai Red Clawed Crabs

[M4R13Y]

Are Thai red crabs worth the money they cost or do they need specialist equipment and are they hard to keep ?

 

[ZoddyZod]

brackish (slightly salty) water and access to land - where they spend 90% of their time.

Species only tank as well. So yes, specialist set up.

 

[M4R13Y]

brackish (slightly salty) water and access to land - where they spend 90% of their time.

Species only tank as well. So yes, specialist set up.

Oh bit too attention seeking for me any other species of crab that can go in a community tank

 

[ZoddyZod]

basically no - most of those traded in the hobby need land access as they are not truly aquatic creatures, so a standard aquarium is unsuitable. Also as a general rule fins and claws do not mix.

There is the thai micro crab that is truly aquatic and can be occassionally found, but it is tiny and probably doesn't offer what you are looking for.

 

[M4R13Y]

Do they all need brackish water, the land thing isn't a problem because I can sort that out with a sloping rock.

 

[ZoddyZod]

so you are planning a crab only tank then?

I'm not sure on freshwater species - hopefully someone else might know.

 

[M4R13Y]

so you are planning a crab only tank then?

I'm not sure on freshwater species - hopefully someone else might know.

I might scrap the shrimp breeding and keep crabs or just find some Thai micro crabs and put em in with the fish

 

[nmonks]

Shame Micro Crabs don't really work with fish. They're small, delicate, and need to live hanging upside down from floating plants. Forget about them walking about the bottom -- they hate that. Matt Clarke had a nice little summary of them on the PFK site.

Shrimps are infinitely easier to keep with fish. I have Cherry Shrimps with Ricefish, and both breed like mad.

Cheers, Neale

I might scrap the shrimp breeding and keep crabs or just find some Thai micro crabs and put em in with the fish

 

[M4R13Y]

thanks neale you are a great help would crystal red shrimp be safe with fish??

 

[phoenixgsd]

thanks neale you are a great help would crystal red shrimp be safe with fish??

yes depending on what fish, i have some but most of the babies were a tasty snack as they are tiny, adults are fine with most fish

 

[raptorrex]

Are Thai red crabs worth the money they cost or do they need specialist equipment and are they hard to keep ?

indeed, as zoddy says. species only.
thing is, kept right, there is too little water for fish anyway.

I thought i was successful a few years back.
though i had a freshwater tank, they had provision for both land and brackish water in the lid.
for a while, it seemed ok. thing was, if you saw em in the tank. there was something wrong with the "pool and sand in the lid. they use the water that little.

this said, apart from setting up the crabitat. they need very little apart from water changes, feeding and giving the land are a clean up.
in return you get fascinating critter, that offer hours, and hour, and hours of viewing fun.

though i haven't tried. it seems some have succeeded in breeding them in as little as 1ppt salt.

 

[M4R13Y]

Are Thai red crabs worth the money they cost or do they need specialist equipment and are they hard to keep ?

indeed, as zoddy says. species only.
thing is, kept right, there is too little water for fish anyway.

I thought i was successful a few years back.
though i had a freshwater tank, they had provision for both land and brackish water in the lid.
for a while, it seemed ok. thing was, if you saw em in the tank. there was something wrong with the "pool and sand in the lid. they use the water that little.

this said, apart from setting up the crabitat. they need very little apart from water changes, feeding and giving the land are a clean up.
in return you get fascinating critter, that offer hours, and hour, and hours of viewing fun.

though i haven't tried. it seems some have succeeded in breeding them in as little as 1ppt salt.

So in order to keep these critters I need a half filled tank with some rocks and driftwood in it so they have land. I need some sort of filtration.


Might be a silly question but do I need a heater or will they be ok in cold brackish water

This Mabe a supid question it does 1 ppt mean one part per thousand ,


So if I had a thousand millilitres of water I would need one millilitre of salt

 

[BerryAttack]

Are Thai red crabs worth the money they cost or do they need specialist equipment and are they hard to keep ?

indeed, as zoddy says. species only.
thing is, kept right, there is too little water for fish anyway.

I thought i was successful a few years back.
though i had a freshwater tank, they had provision for both land and brackish water in the lid.
for a while, it seemed ok. thing was, if you saw em in the tank. there was something wrong with the "pool and sand in the lid. they use the water that little.

this said, apart from setting up the crabitat. they need very little apart from water changes, feeding and giving the land are a clean up.
in return you get fascinating critter, that offer hours, and hour, and hours of viewing fun.

though i haven't tried. it seems some have succeeded in breeding them in as little as 1ppt salt.

So in order to keep these critters I need a half filled tank with some rocks and driftwood in it so they have land. I need some sort of filtration.


Might be a silly question but do I need a heater or will they be ok in cold brackish water

This Mabe a supid question it does 1 ppt mean one part per thousand ,


So if I had a thousand millilitres of water I would need one millilitre of salt

i have red clawed crabs and with any type of crab think of its environment on where they come from... now the red clawed crabs do need warm water i believe around 23'C to 29'C is where i keep mine and they are doing just great...

you can keep them with fish, but do need an area to come out and dry, also this dry area is for them when they molt.. without it they will drown during that process...
the only thing with keeping them with fish is that if they are able to catch them then they will and will eat them or be eaten by bigger fish.. also there are these things that you can put in your aquarium where its like an air bubble under the water.. it stays at the bottom of the tank and with a pump the inside will stay dry and then that is their dry spot.. i haven't really looked into that so i'm not to sure about it..

with the salt use marine salt and i put about a tablespoon (not rounded) per gallon... to make the brackish water.. now with that you have to have fish that are fine with some salt and wont die with it...if you are putting them with your fish
i'm not a super expert with the crabs because I've only had them for awhile, but they are very social.. well mine are and i usually handle them once a day.. and i have mine in a separate tank .. not with my community fish because i don't want them eating or hurt

hope that helped xD

 

[M4R13Y]

Are Thai red crabs worth the money they cost or do they need specialist equipment and are they hard to keep ?

indeed, as zoddy says. species only.
thing is, kept right, there is too little water for fish anyway.

I thought i was successful a few years back.
though i had a freshwater tank, they had provision for both land and brackish water in the lid.
for a while, it seemed ok. thing was, if you saw em in the tank. there was something wrong with the "pool and sand in the lid. they use the water that little.

this said, apart from setting up the crabitat. they need very little apart from water changes, feeding and giving the land are a clean up.
in return you get fascinating critter, that offer hours, and hour, and hours of viewing fun.

though i haven't tried. it seems some have succeeded in breeding them in as little as 1ppt salt.

So in order to keep these critters I need a half filled tank with some rocks and driftwood in it so they have land. I need some sort of filtration.


Might be a silly question but do I need a heater or will they be ok in cold brackish water

This Mabe a supid question it does 1 ppt mean one part per thousand ,


So if I had a thousand millilitres of water I would need one millilitre of salt

i have red clawed crabs and with any type of crab think of its environment on where they come from... now the red clawed crabs do need warm water i believe around 23'C to 29'C is where i keep mine and they are doing just great...

you can keep them with fish, but do need an area to come out and dry, also this dry area is for them when they molt.. without it they will drown during that process...
the only thing with keeping them with fish is that if they are able to catch them then they will and will eat them or be eaten by bigger fish.. also there are these things that you can put in your aquarium where its like an air bubble under the water.. it stays at the bottom of the tank and with a pump the inside will stay dry and then that is their dry spot.. i haven't really looked into that so i'm not to sure about it..

with the salt use marine salt and i put about a tablespoon (not rounded) per gallon... to make the brackish water.. now with that you have to have fish that are fine with some salt and wont die with it...if you are putting them with your fish
i'm not a super expert with the crabs because I've only had them for awhile, but they are very social.. well mine are and i usually handle them once a day.. and i have mine in a separate tank .. not with my community fish because i don't want them eating or hurt

hope that helped xD

Are they easy to handle or do they nip and pince. I guess the air pod underwater is like a mini diving bell . I will look into them a bit more.

 

[BerryAttack]

Are Thai red crabs worth the money they cost or do they need specialist equipment and are they hard to keep ?

indeed, as zoddy says. species only.
thing is, kept right, there is too little water for fish anyway.

I thought i was successful a few years back.
though i had a freshwater tank, they had provision for both land and brackish water in the lid.
for a while, it seemed ok. thing was, if you saw em in the tank. there was something wrong with the "pool and sand in the lid. they use the water that little.

this said, apart from setting up the crabitat. they need very little apart from water changes, feeding and giving the land are a clean up.
in return you get fascinating critter, that offer hours, and hour, and hours of viewing fun.

though i haven't tried. it seems some have succeeded in breeding them in as little as 1ppt salt.

So in order to keep these critters I need a half filled tank with some rocks and driftwood in it so they have land. I need some sort of filtration.


Might be a silly question but do I need a heater or will they be ok in cold brackish water

This Mabe a supid question it does 1 ppt mean one part per thousand ,


So if I had a thousand millilitres of water I would need one millilitre of salt

i have red clawed crabs and with any type of crab think of its environment on where they come from... now the red clawed crabs do need warm water i believe around 23'C to 29'C is where i keep mine and they are doing just great...

you can keep them with fish, but do need an area to come out and dry, also this dry area is for them when they molt.. without it they will drown during that process...
the only thing with keeping them with fish is that if they are able to catch them then they will and will eat them or be eaten by bigger fish.. also there are these things that you can put in your aquarium where its like an air bubble under the water.. it stays at the bottom of the tank and with a pump the inside will stay dry and then that is their dry spot.. i haven't really looked into that so i'm not to sure about it..

with the salt use marine salt and i put about a tablespoon (not rounded) per gallon... to make the brackish water.. now with that you have to have fish that are fine with some salt and wont die with it...if you are putting them with your fish
i'm not a super expert with the crabs because I've only had them for awhile, but they are very social.. well mine are and i usually handle them once a day.. and i have mine in a separate tank .. not with my community fish because i don't want them eating or hurt

hope that helped xD

Are they easy to handle or do they nip and pince. I guess the air pod underwater is like a mini diving bell . I will look into them a bit more.

all crabs have their own likes and dislikes.. some like to be handled and others don't.. mine i find enjoy running around and i can hand feed them.. at first it was very intimidating when going to pick them up, but mine have never pinched or nipped me. but when handling you have to keep them close to something so just in case they jump for some reason, their fall isn't extreme and they wont hurt themselves.