Tetraodon Nigroviridis Setup

[mark7616]

Here is a pic of my Tetraodon Nigroviridis setup what do you all think?

 

[severum boy]

Yeh, i really like it!
What size is it and how many puffers will you be having?

 

[mark7616]

its 40g there are 2x Tetradon Nigrovirdis in there at the moment but there about 1/2"

 

[DarkEntity]

When you move that from High Brackish to Salt that wood and those plants wont last too long

Also you will probably need a larger tank when those 2 fish grow up

 

[Fella]

I don't mean to be sceptical, but is that definitely 40g? It does look a lot like the Juwel Rekord 70 which is nearer 20g.

GSP's make great pets, I'm sure you'll enjoy them. Be sure to read the pinned topic on puffers. Liek Darkentity said though, those plants may well not last long in brackish, and i'm not sure if the plant by the filter, the fern like one, is true aquatic.

 

[nmonks]

It isn't. It is the umbrella fern Selaginella willdenowii. And the plant with red leaves in the middle is Hemigraphis colorata, another non-aquatic. Both of these die within a few months at most when kept underwater. I have no idea why aquarium shops sell them because they are, fundamentally, a con.

Cheers, Neale

i'm not sure if the plant by the filter, the fern like one, is true aquatic.

 

[Fella]

It isn't. It is the umbrella fern Selaginella willdenowii. And the plant with red leaves in the middle is Hemigraphis colorata, another non-aquatic. Both of these die within a few months at most when kept underwater. I have no idea why aquarium shops sell them because they are, fundamentally, a con.

Cheers, Neale

i'm not sure if the plant by the filter, the fern like one, is true aquatic.

On a slightly realted note, could they withstand saltywater at all? I know fundamentally most plants and salt don't get along, but I'm lookign for some plants for my mudskipper tank.

 

[nmonks]

I am told (though never done this) that you can put regular houseplants in a mudskipper tank. What you need to do is isolate their pots from the brackish water, which shouldn't be too difficult with a bit of clever DIY. Those air plants would also work nicely because they could be glued (with silicone) to whatever you wanted, and positioned well above the water line.

If you were really smart you might pick out plants like Cyperus spp. ("aquatic palm" in the trade) that naturally on the edges of brackish marshes so you'd get the right look.

Cheers, Neale

 

[Fella]

I am told (though never done this) that you can put regular houseplants in a mudskipper tank. What you need to do is isolate their pots from the brackish water, which shouldn't be too difficult with a bit of clever DIY. Those air plants would also work nicely because they could be glued (with silicone) to whatever you wanted, and positioned well above the water line.

If you were really smart you might pick out plants like Cyperus spp. ("aquatic palm" in the trade) that naturally on the edges of brackish marshes so you'd get the right look.

Cheers, Neale

I've put regular houseplants in my tank at the moment, but foolishly unpotted them. One of the plants has seemingly died (or is dying) and the other is doing Ok. They've both been in the tank for about a fortnight though, and I have no idea what kind of plants they are, i bought them both as "Foliage" in wilkinsons. I needed to break into a tenner for bus fare and couldn't think of a better way to do it, as the grand total cost as about 75p.

 

[mark7616]

It is a 40g tank they do not make the rekords in beach just black plastic. Im not new to fish keeping people so I dont really need to be spoken to as such, as for the plants im not to up on them but they were sold to me at wildwoods so I expect they wouldnt sell me non aquatic plants.

 

[Fella]

It is a 40g tank they do not make the rekords in beach just black plastic. Im not new to fish keeping people so I dont really need to be spoken to as such, as for the plants im not to up on them but they were sold to me at wildwoods so I expect they wouldnt sell me non aquatic plants.

Sorry, I don't mean to be patronising, but, the colour of that tank isn't clear in the photo. The size of the tank makes it look a lot like a juwel rekord 70, I used to have one. Which juwel tank do you have? There isn't a rio size tank that is 40g.

And even the best fish shops have their bad practices in my experience.

 

[nmonks]

No offence meant, so please don't take my comments as such.

Sadly, even the best fish stores seem to drop the ball when it comes to aquatic plants. As sure as God made little green apples I can tell you that the red plant and the ferny looking thing will both be dead within 3 months. End of discussion, really. They're terrestrial plants that happen to tolerate being under water for short periods, and being cheap to grow, they're in the trade for much the same reasons as pangasius catfish: there are always people who buy things before they research them. At least with plants what happens is you waste your money; it's worse with giant fishes because then you need to rehome them.

The single best investment you can make is a book about aquarium plants. I bought a splendid little Interpet volume for the princely sum of £5 twenty years ago and it has paid for itself many times over. Carry such a book with you when you go shopping, and if the plant for sale isn't in the book: don't buy it until you have a Latin name for the plant and then checked on the Internet to see if it really is an aquatic.

Cheers, Neale


PS -- Fella, can't speak for the Rekord tanks, but my Rio 180 is as close to 40 gallons as makes no odds.

It is a 40g tank they do not make the rekords in beach just black plastic. Im not new to fish keeping people so I dont really need to be spoken to as such, as for the plants im not to up on them but they were sold to me at wildwoods so I expect they wouldnt sell me non aquatic plants.

 

[SMcCreath]

Nice tank! Looks very nice. Looks like they will have a whale of a time in there.

A very interesting topic about plants too. I wondered if anyone could recommend an Author/book to purchase in this regard asI too have had problems finding reliable sources of information.

Sorry to hijack your post!

Many thanks,

No offence meant, so please don't take my comments as such.

Sadly, even the best fish stores seem to drop the ball when it comes to aquatic plants. As sure as God made little green apples I can tell you that the red plant and the ferny looking thing will both be dead within 3 months. End of discussion, really. They're terrestrial plants that happen to tolerate being under water for short periods, and being cheap to grow, they're in the trade for much the same reasons as pangasius catfish: there are always people who buy things before they research them. At least with plants what happens is you waste your money; it's worse with giant fishes because then you need to rehome them.

The single best investment you can make is a book about aquarium plants. I bought a splendid little Interpet volume for the princely sum of £5 twenty years ago and it has paid for itself many times over. Carry such a book with you when you go shopping, and if the plant for sale isn't in the book: don't buy it until you have a Latin name for the plant and then checked on the Internet to see if it really is an aquatic.

Cheers, Neale


PS -- Fella, can't speak for the Rekord tanks, but my Rio 180 is as close to 40 gallons as makes no odds.

It is a 40g tank they do not make the rekords in beach just black plastic. Im not new to fish keeping people so I dont really need to be spoken to as such, as for the plants im not to up on them but they were sold to me at wildwoods so I expect they wouldnt sell me non aquatic plants.

 

[nmonks]

There are any number, and it's really a question of budget and depth. Barrons have a nice one for a fiver, and likewise Interpet*. These are both quite old books though, first published around 15-20 years ago, so the range of plants and dicussion of technology will reflect the fishkeeping of the 80s more than today. But still, the price is right. A newer book for under a tenner is Peter Hiscock's little mini encyclopaedia. It has a nice range of plants plus some useful stuff on biotopes and decorating.

Cheers, Neale

*Amazon has this on sale for 1 p!!!!

 

[Fella]

Fella, can't speak for the Rekord tanks, but my Rio 180 is as close to 40 gallons as makes no odds.

It is a 40g tank they do not make the rekords in beach just black plastic. Im not new to fish keeping people so I dont really need to be spoken to as such, as for the plants im not to up on them but they were sold to me at wildwoods so I expect they wouldnt sell me non aquatic plants.

I always round up rather than down, hence the confusion!