Tank Over 350L Upstairs?

[calversbuyuk]

Bought myself a 5 foot tank the other day which works out to be 350l, by the time i have added my sand, slate, water, home made stand its going to weigh roughly 400KGs, im worried it may be to heavy for my floor as it would be going upstairs in my house so first floor. my house is about 5 years old so im not sure if this means its stronger/weaker as i obviously dont want it coming through my roof.
anyone else had the same sort of situation and can give me some advice? the tanks waiting outside now its annoying as i want to set it up
Hope someone can help thanks

 

[mike455555]

theres no certain way to say yes or no unless you get the house surveyed 400Kg's is almost half a ton if you put it where you know theres a RSJ you might be okay as they can hold up wall's

id put it downstairs if i were you

 

[Ali_RFD]

I have a 500lt tank upstairs. Its been there for 2 years without any problems, its not on a stand though, its a tank for my turtles. However as said above it prob depends on the house etc! X

 

[calversbuyuk]

theres no certain way to say yes or no unless you get the house surveyed 400Kg's is almost half a ton if you put it where you know theres a RSJ you might be okay as they can hold up wall's

id put it downstairs if i were you

Hmm they would cost loads wouldn't they . But what's an RSJ is it the joint thingys and ifbso how can i check where they are?.
Yeh its 350l plus sand rocks and the stand so im guessing roughly 400kgs

 

[calversbuyuk]

I have a 500lt tank upstairs. Its been there for 2 years without any problems, its not on a stand though, its a tank for my turtles. However as said above it prob depends on the house etc! X

Hmmm how old is courthouse roughly im sort of hoping a newer house would be stronger but then also could be weaker as they probs use cheap materials lol

 

[Ali_RFD]

Our house was built 30yrs ago, give or take! I just looked at the fact it could hold a bath full of water an me in it without any issues! Haha very scientific of me! X

 

[calversbuyuk]

Our house was built 30yrs ago, give or take! I just looked at the fact it could hold a bath full of water an me in it without any issues! Haha very scientific of me! X

Thats what im thinkin about the bath hmmmm. it would be the weight of roughly 6 average men which doesnt seem a lot does it

an average bath is 80l LOL

 

[Axyadbad]

hmmmmm. Toughie, its not a concentrated load, and its not a moving load. Basically i'm trying to say its not as bad. If there is anyway of spreading the load more, like a piece of mdf underneath the stand which is wider than the tank base. This is just theory from my course in civil engineering, but I can't say for sure it all depends on the houses capacity. But in all honesty I reckon you should be alrite.

However don't blame me if something happens

 

[Proxo]

Recently put a 240L upstairs, no problems yet . It's on a supporting wall, running across 3 joists.
Like most said, there's no real answer - it's an expensive trial and error with the risk of danger .

I did read that older houses are built better then newer ones though .

 

[calversbuyuk]

Hmm well my stand is going to be made of wood but spread across the whole length of the tank so all thx weight will be spread around 60" x 15" well i have now emailed the people that built thx house as i did that last time with my 130l tank and they said that would be fine upstairs but i would be getting rid of that and putting the new one here. So ats probs best to wait and see what they say.


Mine would be on the wall that on the other side is my neighbours house but im not sure which way the joists are tbh lol and unsure on checking which way. But yeh i sort of thought that newer house they prbs use cheap stuff to make them

 

[calversbuyuk]

Hmm just been speaking to my dad about it he thinks its a bad idea, under my bedroom is our lounge and our lounge is double the lenght of my bedroom but its all open so theres no supporting beams between the loung so its resting 400kg over our lounge just resting on the joists which doest sound lke a good idea does it if that mkes sense

 

[onidrase]

It does depend on the house and such.

I'd get is surveyed, maybe reinforce the flooring (or stick it in the lounge)

 

[dinsdale]

I was looking to get a 5 footer for my first floor lounge so I asked the bloke who does all my building work and he said it should be fine. I got a 450L which is sat in the garage downstairs. It really is big when you see it in person so I asked him yesterday to have another look while he was measuring for windows and he said as long as the joists run perpendicular it will be okay. He also says "I've seen bigger".
So there you go, I've got the green light. Now all I have to do is find someone who is willing to help me shift it upstairs.
Good luck.

 

[calversbuyuk]

I don't want to sell the tank as its such a good size and would prefer it in my bedroom as i see it more but if worst comes to worse it will have to go in the lounge ...




Hmm but all houses are different dinsdale but ill wait to hear from the builders to see what they say and go from there that's prpbs best to be honest as a surveyer would be expensive i think. But thants and you

 

[calversbuyuk]

SO if this is my room and my joists are going that way (in blue, for example as im unsure which way they actually go) then which way will my floor boards be going? the same way across or upwards? and if my joist are going the way i have put it is it best to have the tank along them like i hae donein the bottom right corner so going along all of them? thanks