Tank Cycling The Fallousy

[nelson72]

after buying 14 fish and setting up my new tank, I was shocked to learn from this site that what I done was so wrong.
I was advised my many 'know alls' on here that ' tank cycling' was a fundamentle must when setting up a tank.
6 weeks on my fish are healthy swimming around happily, no casualties and I have added 2 sucking loaches to take care of the algae. A very happy tank thats clean.
So to all the cycling enthusiasts 'thanks but no thanks'

god bless

any comment pls

 

[Truck]

you obviously dont give a toss about your fish if you subject them to ammonia and nitrite. you probably did loose fish but you just want to be stuck up and make out your clever.

rant over. :shakes head in shame:

 

[BenPursglove]

You CAN cycle the tank with fish in, just as you CAN cross the road with your eyes closed.

Both of the above are not recommended as they both have a tendency to shorten life.

If there is an option to cross the road with your eyes open and you take it, you have a better chance of living longer. If there is an option to cycle a tank without fish and you take it, your fish will have a better chance of living longer.

You have merely chosen the route of one that does not know any better despite knowing better. You sound like the type who would choose to cross the road with their eyes closed and then tell everyone that you survived it. Good luck in life my friend, I think you will need it.

 

[vinylman]

So, presumably, because you - or to be more accurate, your fish - have been lucky so far you won't be asking here for advice when things go wrong in the future?. Especially from a bunch of ''know-alls''. It's a matter of fact that any fish exposed to Ammonia and Nitrites - which your fish have been - will have permanently damaged gills that will shorten their lives. Still, you can just buy some more and throw them in there, can't you?. Thanks for sharing your knowledge with us all, but most people here actually keep and care for their fish, rather than just have them. Maybe you think Ammonia poisoning doesn't exist, either?. I really can't see why you bothered to register here, unless it's just to pass on your vast experience and knowledge. Careful, you don't want to turn into a ''know-all''.

 

[greenscooby]

Couldn't of put it better myself.

 

[keenonfish]

after buying 14 fish and setting up my new tank, I was shocked to learn from this site that what I done was so wrong.
I was advised my many 'know alls' on here that ' tank cycling' was a fundamentle must when setting up a tank.
6 weeks on my fish are healthy swimming around happily, no casualties and I have added 2 sucking loaches to take care of the algae. A very happy tank thats clean.
So to all the cycling enthusiasts 'thanks but no thanks'

god bless

any comment pls

Well I presume as the many experienced folk on this forum are just 'know it alls' and don't actually know what they are talking about you won't bother coming back here?

See ya

 

[keenonfish]

so what's all this about then?

I have a 40L tank with 10 neon tetras and 5 zebra danios
I was thinking of adding bottom feeders/cleaners

What do you recommend

cheers

brian uk

I have 8 neon tetras, 4 zebra danios, 2 sucking loaches all young

I feed with aqurian tropical flake, how often should I feed and how much?

 

[vinylman]

Hmmm. I wonder if he lives under a bridge?.

 

[kenny fish fanatic]

seems to me you know it all,let me tell you you know nothing,you will have problems you have been lucky up to now,but the clock is ticking.when it goes t*ts up,and it will, you will need people on here to help,we all learn the hard way,good luck,i think you going to need it,,kenny

 

[oswoldy]

Ammonia

Maybe everyone is wrong apart from Nelson72

 

[vinylman]

Ammonia

Maybe everyone is wrong apart from Nelson72

Good God, he'll explode if he reads that.

 

[BenPursglove]

Numbers update for nelson72:
Current posters who disagree with fishess cycle: 1
Current know it alls who agree with fishless cycle: 7

 

[JustKia]

In all fairness you can successfully cycle fish-in. However, it takes a lot of work, observation, time, commitment. It isn't impossible - I've done.
Would I recommend everyone do it? No, of course not. The best thing to do is advise people to do things the easier way - the fishless cycle.
What does annoy me is that people get a little obsessive at times that "all your fish will die" if someone so much as mentions fish in cycles.
Do I think the OP has taken the time to be sure his fish aren't suffering rather than just sticking them in and hoping for the best? No, unfortuantely not - but please do not tar everyone with the same brush.
After all even Diana Walstad doesn't do "fishless cycling" because she takes the time to ensure that waste is dealt with appropriately.

 

[Underwurlde]

Make that 8.

Yes, if you can, fishless cycle. TBH, I've nothing against fish-in cycle, as long as it's done correcty - there is a lot of work involved in doing a fish-in cycle correctly though, so my basic point when comparing the two methods is why bother with fish-in cycle: fishless cycling is far esier and less stressful for the fish.

Honestly, it's not a 'fallousy' as you've so elegantly put it.... good thing about forums is that they provide a wealth of bang up to date information. IMO, it would be foolish for someone with obviously little experience to ignore the advice that at the end of the day you've asked for!

Also, in starting such a thread, you are not standing yourself in very good stead for any future help!

Andy

 

[keenonfish]

After all even Diana Walstad doesn't do "fishless cycling" because she takes the time to ensure that waste is dealt with appropriately.

Yes but surely she has a fully planted aquarium which is quite different!

Of course fish-in can be fine but one thing that I think is the deciding factor is tank size... A large tank say 125 litre with a couple of platy's will be much more manageable than some
thing your average beginner will pick up from their LFS

Actually come to think of it another method would to start with a couple of fry = very little waste and waste increases proportionately as they grow = filter not necessarily overloaded and should be able to cope apart from maybe the first week or so... worth a thought..