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ive tried to breed bettas before- got a nest and 'hugging' but no eggs. can successful breeders tell me how to take
care of the fry and generally where they get thir bettas (pet store breeder [does it matter?])
 
Firstly, have you room enough for the ammount of fry they produce? The mother will need to be removed from the tank straight after breeding and the fry will need to be seperated from the father after a while too.
 
i know how to to breed them and have the proper supplies.
i just want someone to answer my questions
 
well personally if you don't know how to care for the fry then your not ready :/

Caring for the fry is the most important part they require a lot of time.

The most important thing to do when breeding bettas is research like mad before hand, ask your self do you have the space to house possibly 100+ individual fish!
 
I wanted A grade bettas to breed because the ones at the usual local pet stores only have the run of the mill VT. But if you want good quality exotics you have to hunt around on the net and find people that deals with them. Breeding good quality bettas insures your chances of being able to give all of your offspring a good home (we hope). When you say you want information on how to take care of your fry do you mean in food wise or environment. If you want to use us (this forum) as research into breeding bettas then we will help you. What have you got so far to start. :)
 
Where you acquire them won't matter, unless you want to know genetic lineage beyond phenotype.

The most important is CONDITIONING!
Feed them up well, to ensure optimum health! Make sure the female is full of eggs so she can produce well. Make sure the male has enough stamina to maintain the nest and the fry since he shouldn't be fed while he is on active parent duty. Basically lots of live food or super rich food like Attisons. Get them good and healthy for a couple weeks.

It is also going to depend on the individual fish! Some may be sterile, or the pair may be incompatible (let's face it, all people don't get along very well, nether do all fish!)

Feeding the fry will be a big deal!
You CAN cull pretty hard if you don't want to raise HUNDREDS of fry. Some people think it's cruel, but that IS the way their reproductive system was designed. In nature they create hundreds of young in the hope that ONE or TWO will survive. Culling is similar, except it's YOU deciding who or how many you want to make it.

I breed selectively, so that means the ones who don't have the qualities I want are culled out, so that I can give the best ones the best chance! (if I was breeding solid white for example, and I got a few red fry, I could cull the reds early so I could focus my efforts on the ones I do want. Just an example) you need to be prepared for the reality of big numbers, and how to focus your efforts on what your goals are... It's a decision a lot of people aren't REALY prepared for.

The other really tough question to ask yourself BEFORE you breed, is WHY you want to in the first place!!!
There is NO SHORTAGE of Bettas out there, and you won't likely be competing with the Asian mass scale breeders for any market suply. So ask yourself WHAT is so special about your Bettas that makes them superior to the mass produced Asian fish?
If you have fish with rare, unusual, or marketable qualities... It would make sense. If your fish is a "dime a dozen" common variety what are you going to do with the offspring you produce? Because you will have a hard time finding homes for them (the price of the asian ones will beat anything you ask for them)

If you have something special, or extremely specific, then you will probably be able to find homes for the extra fish easily enough, but then you will be well informed about your market and had time to get to know better what to expect with the behaviors and processes of their courtship and raising.

I don't want to discourage you, but I find most people don't think it through... And get ultimately disappointed by the outcome. If you set yourself up to SUCCEED by answering the WHY first... Then it becomes an easier proposition to get a good outcome! ;)
 
thanks for the info LadyDragon! i want to breed bettas because i love breeding fish and mixing and matching colors would be fun too! i do realize raising fry is hard work and have spent hours
researching it, but i want to know how you people feed your fry. :)
anyone like to share? :fish:
 
thanks for the info LadyDragon! i want to breed bettas because i love breeding fish and mixing and matching colors would be fun too! i do realize raising fry is hard work and have spent hours
researching it, but i want to know how you people feed your fry. :)
anyone like to share? :fish:
I find live food the best. I've raised my lot on micro worms for the first 4 weeks then added hatched brine shrimps as well. They are 5 weeks old now so I also give them finely crumbled Nutrafin max, grated frozen bloodworms as part of their diet too. If you can't get a hold of live worm culture or brine shrimps you can try the liquid fry food. I breed all my bettas in a well lit planted tank so a lot of microscopic critters can also be on the fry food menu. :)
 
The Atisons fry mixture and microworms.
I also keep Java moss That has spent some time in my daphnia and scud culture tank (because I know it has daphnia and baby Scuds in it) that they can feed on when they get big and strong enough to take them. Plus the Scuds and Daphnia help keep the water clean by eating mulm, detritus, Alge, and any fry that Mama Nature deemed too weak or defective that I miss in my tank cleanings.
 

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