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Hi
My son wants a betta. :/
He hasn't got a tank for one yet and I just want to ask what is recommended, sizewise and filterwise etc and if possible where they can be bought from.
Any help and advice given would be much appriciated. :good:
Thanks.
 
Well, check out your Local Fish Store for small 2-5 gallon tanks. I got a 5 gallon tank at £11.05 in my lfs and it is perfect for a betta. You could also get a small bag of gravel. Then just perform 50% water changes every 4 days ;)

Bret
 
Have you got a Wilkos near you they do a tank for £4.99 plastic I know, but I buy 2 and then you can do easy water changes!
 
I presume you are talking about the basic goldfish bowl ?

I was thinking more of a small tropical tank, with filter/heater etc.

What is better for the betta? :good:

I don't know of a Wilkos store anywhere.
 
While the accepted minimum for the species is 1 gallon, bigger is definately better; safer heating, stable temp, less frequent water changes, better water quality etc. I personally would not go smaller than 2.5g (inch per gallon rule), with 5g being preferable, and 10g great, esp. if you want to include some snails or small algae-eating fish. Since you want to heat and filter, 5g+ is the safest; there are heaters for 2.5g, but they can cause the tank to overheat very quickly.
Heating, unless you room temp is steadily at ~ 75, is a must. Bettas prefer temps in the mid/upper 70's to low 80's, with something to the tune of 76-80 being ideal, and 72-84 being "ok" (I think; don't quote me on that. My tanks have been at 76 for so long that I don't worry much about temperature fluctuations any more).
A simple HOB filter would be fine for a 5-10g tank. You may have to put filter sponge or pantyhose around the intake to prevent the betta from getting stuck, and it would be strongly preferable to find something with a gentle output as bettas are not a fan of current - especially the long finned kind, which I assume you are getting if you are buying from a pet store. A plakat could probably handle current like a "normal" finned fish, but they aren't easy to come by unless from a breeder. Sponge and UGF filters are also good for bettas, but I don't think they're very good if you want to do a cycled tank.
Regardless of your tank size, you want to make sure it is well planted. Bettas love to hide, and fish with long fins - esp. ones being kept in a large tank with a filter - need something to rest on so they don't exhaust themselves to death. You can choose to go fake or live, but I suggest only using silk plants if you use fake, as plastic can rip the fins. You may also want a cave; any commercially available cave with soft, rounded edges is safe, and you can DIY your own as well. I know some great advice for this, but it is at a forum potentially viewed as competative to this one, so you'll have to PM me if you want 'em. ;)
Also, if you choose to do a 10g and want other fish, please read the info on compatible species first! Your bettas disposition may demand that he is a lone fish. Other bettas don't mind small, passive, dull-colored fish. Many people use small catfish (blanking on the name; they are small, social, and only get to be a few inches), which bettas generally ignore, but remember you'll want to quarentene them first as many tropical fish are wild caught or from large scale fish farms, both of which are a good source of parasites and disease.
You could also add some invertebrates or ADFs, but I warn that bettas sometimes think snails and shrimp are just a really expensive snack (lol). Snails have a high waste output and destroy most live plants, so keep that in mind.
 
I disagree. Bigger is certainly not better for a betta. Well, at least from my experience it's not always better. I once had a betta in a 20 gallon tank alone and it developed fin rot after 3 months. Plus I think it stresses the betta because it seems to have to urge to patrol the tank more often since it's bigger. The ones I've had for many years in their 1 gallon bowls never had any diseases. However, I agree that 1 gallon is the minimum for a betta.
 
Never suggested anything bigger than a 10 ;)
I meant bigger is better in terms of stable temperature, safe heating, water quality, frequency of water changes, behavioral enrichment, exersize, possibility of tank mates, etc. The "bigger is better" was stated within the realm of reasonable betta tank sizes; I firmly believe that in almost every cases, except for a fish who simply can not swim properly due to disability or ridiculous finnage, a 5g will always be superior to a 1g since it is less likely to develop toxic water conditions or huge temperature changes in short periods of time.
 
Wow, another heaping pile of misinformation by tetras4me... big surprise. A cup of water is not sufficient for a betta, nor is a quart, or a liter, or anything less than a gallon. So far, you've given horrible advice in every thread you've posted in on the betta board. Do not post unless you know the info you are giving is correct.

Anyways, ignore that... bettas should not be kept in less than 1g, as anything else will show a rapid deterioration in water quality over a very short period of time, which stresses the fish and creates the need for more frequent stressful water changes.
 
When I started out I had very good luck keeping bettas in a five gallon kit that came with a lid. It's large enough it doesn't matter if you forget to change water for a day or two, and can be kept cycled with a little bit of extra work. (Check out more info here: http://www.fishforums.net/index.php?showtopic=141944 )

I wouldn't recommend an internal filter, I personally had a horrid experiance with a betta getting his fins caught and ripped apart so bad that he died from shock shortly after. (It was probably just bad luck, though.) The HOB filter (Hang on the Back) that RandomWiktor suggested is a great idea - I have a Tetra Whisper 10 on my seven gallon betta/shrimp/frog tank that has an adjustable flow rate and can be set at almost nothing.

A betta in a bowl won't take much work, but he may not be all that healthy and happy if not kept warm and clean. A betta in a heated, clean tank with proper water (either cycled or changed frequently) is a joy to watch! It does take some work - expect to put in an hour or so a week for maintenance, more when first starting out and learning the tricks of the trade.

You don't sound so thrilled that he wants a betta. If he's not old enough or responsible enough, please keep in mind that these duties will fall on you, and bettas can live for up to 4 years in captivity. It's not nearly as much work as a cat or dog, or even a hamster, but it still requires time and patience.
 
Most of my bettas are kept in 1 gallon fish bowls, but I do have my one male who is a chronic fin eater and he is really happy in my little 5 gallion mini bowl, with some softer plastic plants (so fins don't rip) and i don't usually have the filter on, it is there with a peice of plastic to decrease the current when it is on, as some bettas really do not like a current.

If you're looking for a nice looking tank for your son for a betta, i'd recommned the 2.5 or 5 gallon mini bowls, they're very attractive looking and comes with the filter and lid/light. I don't have a heater in mine, as I figure if the temp is okay for me in the room it's probably ok for him :lol:
 

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