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Ginge2010

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I want to re design my tank but iv got no ideas can anyone help currently its gravel at bottom and its got a cave and a big trunk with plastic plants on there was live plants till my fish eaten them
 

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Decor wise I often find natural materials easier to work with than the plastic ones you get in shops. Slate rocks are often cheap and easy to find in garden centres and add instant scaping opportunities - you can also get large clumps of java fern on bog wood that help fill out a tank. Bog wood is readily available in shops :) 
 
For me in your tank I would look at getting some larger cobble like stones - get a few sizes and then it will make the gravel you have look more natural - maybe one large one just off centre and then other smooth cobbles scattered around the base of it. You could also try planting some plants in between the rocks - either real or you can get some pretty good fake silk ones these days.
 
I think the reason your plants dont last is your Silver Dollar that I spot in the bottom right.
 
Judging by the filter and the trim on the tank I think this tank is either a Fluval Roma 90 or a Fluval Roma 125 but cant work out which. Either way you have a couple of fish in there that grow just too large. The Silver Dollar and the Plecos both need much bigger tanks and the Silver Dollar needs to be in a group rather than kept alone. You also seem to have a goldfish in there? This is usually a bad idea.
 
What is the stocking of this tank? Hope you dont mind me asking and if you have a long term plan for these fish I apologise :)
 
Hope that helps
Wills
 
No worries ask away the goldfish and shubunkies are being rehoused soon reason there in that is because the old tank they was in i sold and theres 4 silver dollars 3 of them are only young the big ones about 5 years old my tanks a fluval roma 200 but im saving up to get a larger tank

The fish in my tank are
4 pleco ( 2 are mini plecs they dont grow very big )
3 clown loach
2 shubunkies ( being rehoused )
Goldfish ( being rehoused )
Albino red tipped shark
Black red tipped shark
3 clown loach
Guppies
Danios
Platys
Mollies
Upside down catfish
Rainbow fish
Siamese fighter
Indian gourami

I know its over stocked but half of these are being rehoused into my old tank im having back of my sis and thanks for the ideas
 
Half of them are being rehomed? I would do like 80% of them :p
 
Really need to relook stocking ideas, Am abit confused why there's a gold fish in there lol.
 
Also, There's no such thing as a mini plecs. The smallest of plecs are bristlenoses and the rest are pretty much commons that grow huge no matter what people tell you.
 
That plec is 5 years old and hasnt grown much the person i brought it off said its a mini plec so thats what i call it lol the goldfish is in there because i sold the tank it was in and its being rehomed soon and i will be upgrading when iv got the cash eventually i want a 6 ft planted tank and to convert my current tank into a marine one
 
As mentioned above it does seem that your selection of fish is ultimately flawed.
 
Even removing the goldfish there are still a fair few fish in there that could do with either increasing in number or removing.
 
Having a plan for a bigger tank is always a good idea but unfortunately sometimes never materialises.... I was in a slightly similar situation to you a few years ago - had a 4 foot wanted a 6 foot and promised my self it. But then things happen and the new tank never comes. In my case my flat had to be rebuilt from the inside due to a leak and I had to move out for six months then by the time I had eventually got enough money I had car problems and then some months later I managed to get one :) But it took about 18 months longer than I wanted and I had already been waiting for some time in the build up.
 
A good motto to live by is get the tank then the fish which might seem obvious but it applies all the way through the hobby.
 
Your stocking seems a little hapazard as well - there are so many fish out there it is very easy to just get as many species as possible but its not always the best idea long term. I think even in a large 6 foot to keep all the fish you have and add more to make up your schooing and gregarious fish happy you would be looking at a 6x2x2 and even then it would be pretty full with little or no room to have any other species and trust me when you get the bigger tank you will want bigger fish rather than just things like the guppies.
 
With the mini plecs you are right there are hundreds of species of plecs that stay small and some of them are pretty common these days but I can tell you right now you have a gibbicep in that tank the one laying on the gravel in that pic. And I think the one on the glass is a common as well both of these will get to in excess of a foot as they grow - if either of these are the original "mini" plec then unfortunately they will be stunted and their life span shortened by a number of years. I would consider 5 years to be a very good age for a stunted fish.
 
You also have two red tailed sharks in their - one alibno and one black both the same species of fish both incredibly intollerant of their own species bad idea to keep more than one in any sized tank as it will end badly for one or both of them.
 
The Siamese fighter will be suffering a little in such a big tank as well especially with other zippy fish in there like the Danios and the Dollars etc they have been bred specifically to be kept in small calm tanks not large tanks with a good turn over flow from a big filter.
 
How long is this tank btw?
 
Wills
 
techen said:
Half of them are being rehomed? I would do like 80% of them :p
 
Really need to relook stocking ideas, Am abit confused why there's a gold fish in there lol.
 
Also, There's no such thing as a mini plecs. The smallest of plecs are bristlenoses and the rest are pretty much commons that grow huge no matter what people tell you.
Not entirely true. There's also loads of other dwarf varieties but I get what your saying.

Anyways, your stocking has flaws.

I will point out these flaws:


The fish in my tank are
4 pleco ( 2 are mini plecs they dont grow very big ) - what are the species? If you start a thread on it in the Pleco catfish section someone can tell you.
3 clown loach- these will out grow your tank
2 shubunkies ( being rehoused )- good these are being rehomed, do it quick though
Goldfish ( being rehoused )- as above
Albino red tipped shark- may get nasty eventually
Black red tipped shark- may get nasty Eventually
3 clown loach- these will outgrow your tank
Guppies- how many?
Danios- how many? What kind?
Platys- how many?
Mollies- how many?
Upside down catfish- needs a bigger school.6+
Rainbow fish- needs a bigger school 6+
Siamese fighter- will probably be killedby other fish eventually. He will kill some of the other fish too probably.
Indian gourami- is this the giant 2 foot one or the 4 inch one?
 
I will answer as best as i can the
indian gourami is the 4 inch one they came as a pair ( birthday presents lol )
two mini plecs (came with my old tank ) if thats what there called and the other two are normal and i know they will grow big
the red tipped shark (came in same tank as my mini plecs) keeps him self to him self doesnt bother any other fish
The albino red tipped shark he is only young he hangs out by the heater (birthday present lol)
6 guppies 6 danios but two are the giant danios 5 platys and the mollies there is 2 left i lost one the other day and theres 4 rainbow fish
The siamese fighter (love these fish) just hangs out by filter and my tank is a fluval roma 200 its a 200 ltr tank but its long
Most of the fish were bday presents and were already in my tank before i got out of bed lol

And thanks for advice
Pic ay very good had to shrink it image.jpg
The mini plec is the black one sucking on the glass
 
Lolz. I would get 2 more rainbows in there, and rehome the clown loaches and Goldies :) . I think even then it may be overstocked.
 
I have got a tank ready to pick up for my goldie and shubunkies it was my old one which im having back of my sis its a pain theres so many fish i want but i cant because of my current stock my family think im obsessed lol
 

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