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[Gankutsuou]

Angels undeserving of agressive behavior?

A: A single angel wiped out 1/2 older brother's entier tropical community tank overnight in the past. (he now does marine)

B: RTBS are generaly agressive and teritorial fish. Even given a place to hide, it presues fish around the tank relentlessly. He killed several of my tetra in my first attempt at a real tank a while back. I'd say negative experinces with him.

But, Rams are cichlids. Slightly tougher.
I'm just scared of the angels going for any of their finnage.

And the senegal won't fight back. So If an angel starts pecking, all it'll do is run off.

Some people get nice angels, some people don't.
Some people get docile RTBS, some people don't.
Like people, fish each and in their own can have different personalities. I was just going by general and by personal and secondhand experince.

 

[Lynden]

A: A single angel wiped out 1/2 older brother's entier tropical community tank overnight in the past. (he now does marine)

An entire tank of fish is dissapearing overnight, and you blame it on a single angel? Wow.

RTBS are generaly agressive and teritorial fish. Even given a place to hide, it presues fish around the tank relentlessly. He killed several of my tetra in my first attempt at a real tank a while back. I'd say negative experinces with him.

I had a Red Tail Black Shark for several months and it never hurt any of my fish. However, you kept it with tetras and expected it not to pick on them? Double wow. Keeping any Cyprinid with tetras that are much smaller than it is a very bad idea. You can't blame a fish for eating, you know.

But, Rams are cichlids. Slightly tougher.
I'm just scared of the angels going for any of their finnage.

Discus and Checkerboard Cichlids are Cichlids too. Doesn't mean they are any tougher than a Characin or Cyprinid their size. And also, you are scared of an Angel going for a Ram's fins? Triple wow.

And the senegal won't fight back. So If an angel starts pecking, all it'll do is run off.

How do you think they survive in the wild? By letting Cichlids peck them? No, they will scurry off into a cave. They will do the same thing in a tank setting.

I really don't understand why Angels are thought of as so aggressive When I started fishkeeping, 4 years ago, they were thought of as the victims, not as the bullies. Why has that changed? I have kept many Angels in the past, and none were very aggressive. They would constantly get beaten up by Cichlids and Cyprinids if they were in the same tank. I would also like everyone doubting me to know that I once had a 5'' long Pterophyllum scalare that I kept with Black Neon Tetras, and the Tetras ended up outliving the Angel (who died of swimbladder problems) after 6 months of living together with no incedent. Seems to me that if Angels were anywhere near as aggressive as everyone says they are, that those Neons would have been gone within a week.

Oh Angel Cichlid, why does everyone think you are so mean?

-Lynden

 

[halfbloodprincess]

Hmmmmmmmm... What type of oddballs? I like the suggestion I had, so what could be with them?

 

[Gankutsuou]

considering the fact that my brother witnessed part of the killing after lights on, yes. I would blame an angel for the death of half a tropical community.

But like I said, you may get lucky with a docile one, or you may get a really agressive one.
And if a RTBS took out neons, how could you not expect it to take out corries and posibly playing khulis?

 

[halfbloodprincess]

Okay this sounds okay right?

4 angel fish
2 rams
1 elaphant nose fish
1 butterfly fish
7 corys

 

[halfbloodprincess]

Right?

 

[halfbloodprincess]

Anyone?