Stocking Advice For A Juwel Rio 180?

[Mr Melt]

No Oscar lol

I would say its fully stocked

I think even with the congo tetras you might be better going with say 10 neons/cardinals/rasboras instead as congos grow to about 3" and they may look quite big considering there would be 6

Most of your fish are like 3" might be nice to just change it up a bit

But the Angelfish would eat them..........

Thats the reason I opted for Congos - they get big enough to NOT be food for the Angels =P

 

[AmazonFTW]

It all depends on your water chemistry really but I'd suggest a stocking of:
4x Angelfish (If they pair then remove the two non-paired ones - if there's a problem),
6x Columbian Redfin Tetras,
5x Corydoras sp.,
1x Male Bristlenose (they look nicer )
2x Festive/Keyhole Cichlids (only add if you feel they won't get harassed or harass the Angels).

(Keeping it South American)

OR African:
2x Kribensis (1male, 1female),
5x Congo Tetras,
1x Synodontis sp. (one of the smaller ones),
1x Male Bristlenose (not African, but no African algae eater springs to mind..).

OR.. oh wait.. I don't know anything about Asian fish, sorry .

OR if you're into Cichlids then you could go for a Malawi/Tanganyikan set-up (not sure about this though, tank may be a bit small, worth a post of the Old World Cichlid side if you decide you like the idea of this route).

Good Luck,
AmazonFTW

 

[Mr Melt]

It all depends on your water chemistry really but I'd suggest a stocking of:
4x Angelfish (If they pair then remove the two non-paired ones - if there's a problem),
6x Columbian Redfin Tetras,
5x Corydoras sp.,
1x Male Bristlenose (they look nicer )
2x Festive/Keyhole Cichlids (only add if you feel they won't get harassed or harass the Angels).

(Keeping it South American)

OR African:
2x Kribensis (1male, 1female),
5x Congo Tetras,
1x Synodontis sp. (one of the smaller ones),
1x Male Bristlenose (not African, but no African algae eater springs to mind..).

OR.. oh wait.. I don't know anything about Asian fish, sorry .

OR if you're into Cichlids then you could go for a Malawi/Tanganyikan set-up (not sure about this though, tank may be a bit small, worth a post of the Old World Cichlid side if you decide you like the idea of this route).

Good Luck,
AmazonFTW

To be honest the only fish that rivals the Snowball in my eyes is the Starlight Bristlenose =P

Is that what you were referring to?

And I like Cichlids, but I don't like too many of them if you catch my meaning, therefore a Cichlid only tank wouldn't suit me =/

 

[AmazonFTW]

If you want a nice plec then go for what you want, as long as it's not massive. I don't research plecs much, I have enough BNs to last a life time, they're my Algae crew. If you have much cover I doubt you'll see the plec anyway so that's why I bother with anything fancy .

Just list Cichlids you like and I'll say yes or no for a community tank.

I know what you mean by a Cichlid only tank though.

 

[Mr Melt]

If you want a nice plec then go for what you want, as long as it's not massive. I don't research plecs much, I have enough BNs to last a life time, they're my Algae crew. If you have much cover I doubt you'll see the plec anyway so that's why I bother with anything fancy .

Just list Cichlids you like and I'll say yes or no for a community tank.

I know what you mean by a Cichlid only tank though.

I like some Severums, Oscars, GBRs (adore them) and I dont mind Bolivian Rams (dont know their size though)...


I also like these, but I dont know their alternative common name or size/compatability: Apistogramma Agassizii Dwarf Cichlids
(http/www.tropicalfishandaquariums.com/DwarfCichlids/ApistogrammaAgassiziiPhoto.asp)

 

[AmazonFTW]

I like some Severums, Oscars, GBRs (adore them) and I dont mind Bolivian Rams (dont know their size though)...


I also like these, but I dont know their alternative common name or size/compatability: Apistogramma Agassizii Dwarf Cichlids
(http/www.tropicalfishandaquariums.com/DwarfCichlids/ApistogrammaAgassiziiPhoto.asp)

Sevs - Too big,
Oscars - Way too big,
GBRs - OK sizewise but have special temperature and water chemistry requirements,
Bolivian Rams - Best choice of what you said, only about 3" in length, could keep a little group.
Apisto. Agassizi (Agassizi's Dwarf Cichlid) - Males 3", Females 2" - Thrive in soft, acidic water and not likely to last in other conitions.

 

[Mr Melt]

I like some Severums, Oscars, GBRs (adore them) and I dont mind Bolivian Rams (dont know their size though)...


I also like these, but I dont know their alternative common name or size/compatability: Apistogramma Agassizii Dwarf Cichlids
(http/www.tropicalfishandaquariums.com/DwarfCichlids/ApistogrammaAgassiziiPhoto.asp)

Sevs - Too big,
Oscars - Way too big,
GBRs - OK sizewise but have special temperature and water chemistry requirements,
Bolivian Rams - Best choice of what you said, only about 3" in length, could keep a little group.
Apisto. Agassizi (Agassizi's Dwarf Cichlid) - Males 3", Females 2" - Thrive in soft, acidic water and not likely to last in other conitions.

So could I get. say 2 GBR/Electric Blues and 2 Bolivians/Agassizis Cichlids? (in lieu of the mollies, who I now understand NEED brackish water).

PS - I know a lot of these fish have certain requirements; I will NOT blindly just empty them into the tank, as there will be a LOT more research done if I can keep them all together (pity my local fish store assistants.... they know not of the pain they will recieve from my phonecalls).

 

[eaglesaquarium]

I wouldn't say that mollies need brackish water. What they need is HARD water. There is a difference.



As far as fish store assistants go, talk to the MANAGER, not the sales people. Usually the manager will have the most knowledge. If the manager tells you "I don't know, I've never tried that" to a question, you can feel a little easier about the advice you are getting. If they have an answer to every question, you have to feel a little skeptical about them just trying to make a sale. Secondly, take all their advice with a grain of salt and do your own research, independent of them. Double (and even triple) check everything!!! You are off to a good start already, just keep it up.

 

[KkAaNnEe]

+1

They dont need brackish water, but they do prefer harder water

Angels and smaller fish are ok i have never had problems, your not gonna buy a 6" angel are you? Max it will be is like 3" at a LFS, plus smaller fish are too quick for a slow, well fed angel...

 

[AmazonFTW]

GBRs need softer, more acidic water at a hotter temperature. Bolvians need harder, more alkaline water and 'standard tropical' temperature water. Agassizis will do well in the same conditions as GBRs... other than the temperature.

I don't know if you already keep fish but I think Bolivian Rams or Angelfish would be best if you're new to Cichlids, I started off with Apistos and I couldn't keep the poor things alive. Now I keep more robust species and they're all OK.

 

[Mr Melt]

GBRs need softer, more acidic water at a hotter temperature. Bolvians need harder, more alkaline water and 'standard tropical' temperature water. Agassizis will do well in the same conditions as GBRs... other than the temperature.

I don't know if you already keep fish but I think Bolivian Rams or Angelfish would be best if you're new to Cichlids, I started off with Apistos and I couldn't keep the poor things alive. Now I keep more robust species and they're all OK.

I have a 50 ltr with Cardinal Tetras, Platys, Endlers Livebearers and a Crowntail Betta.

But yes, they are all relatively hardy (with the exception of Cardinals which I added last).

When it comes to PH at any rate, the local water is around 7.0-7.2; I thought that it was better not to change the PH, as fish would gradually acclimatise to the waters PH level. I also heard that it was sudden PH fluctuations that can kill fish.

And water temperature; I always keep it at 26-27 (average temperature for most compatability).

Would this be ok for most of the fish I plan to stock?