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right now i have 1 german blue ram(4 months old) 2 angelfish(5 months old) 1 betta fish 2 bristlenose plecos(2 inches and 1.5 inches) 2 ghost shrimp(3 inches)

i will be getting a new tank soon, which is why i got the angels now, since they could become use to my routine and anyways i was wondering if they could all be fine in a 30 gallon tall, or long tank. but i am hoping to get a 40 gallon, but it all depends on which one i get for christmas :). so would they be fine in a 30 gallon tank? or should i get a 40 gallon? i know bigger is always better but i want to find a good price and the 30 gallon i have found is $40 and i already have a 30 gallon filter and 6.6 filter i am using right now that i would use for that tank(both are already cycled), and i have a heater and substrate, etc for it. so anyone know if this would be a good idea?
 
Bigger is better, but I wouldnt keep angelfish with a betta they will rip his fins to bits they are nippy little blighters.
 
Agreed with Star, I can see disaster looming with keeping angelfish and betta together. I would move the betta to his own 5 gal, he'd be quite happy in there by himself :good:

I would push for as big a tank as you possibly can- angels grow to be surprisingly big. Mine are only about 7 months old and they're already very tall fish.
 
Yeah definitely what everyone else has mentioned. The biggest you can get. My tank is over three feet long and the angelfish use every inch of it. Height is important though, as I wouldn't put angelfish in anything smaller than 18" tall really.
 
the betta fish is a female and i will move her once the angels are older. i would really like to get a 40 gallon put it is up to my parents, but i might be able to persuade them
 
I would still move her over to her own tank sooner rather than later, if the angels took a disliking to her for any reason then she wouldn't stand much chance against them. My smallest angel is still very small (50p), but he can't half have a go at the bigger angels if he's in a bad mood!

Looking forward to seeing your new tank when it arrives :good:
 
ill be sure to post pictures. also my betta and angels are doing fine right now, since the betta is bigger, but i will be sure to keep that in mind, thanks
 
I would still move her over to her own tank sooner rather than later, if the angels took a disliking to her for any reason then she wouldn't stand much chance against them. My smallest angel is still very small (50p), but he can't half have a go at the bigger angels if he's in a bad mood!

Looking forward to seeing your new tank when it arrives
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Agreed, Angels are definitely under rated hunters, I had a huge planted tank in 2008 and my betta non splender in there never lasted the night and was practically ambushed by my Angels, and I found out angels will take on anything if there in a group of 5 or more, I've seen them ambushing earth worms, I think I may have bought wild angels, because there more hunter fish than flake and blood worm eating, wish I still had those, their behaviour was amazing.

Anyway personally I would not put a betta with angels at all.
 
If possible, I would spring for a 55g at least. Not just for the size, but it is an easily stockable size that would allow for a lot of options, as well as the fact your angels can grow happy and healthy in it. It would more than accomadate your rams, angels, and plecs, and allow for the addition of a nice shoal of schooling fish, such as cardinals or glowlights. I am on board with the idea of moving the betta. Most cichlids will turn their temper at adulthood, so while things may be okay now, i would have a tank set aside for if things go sour.
 

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