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Uhmm... I'm pretty sure marine relates to saltwater mostly BUT I think it would also be with fresh was well. Like instead of water bio-... Nevermind let's just call me an idiot. That's what I'm feeling like now
 
Uhmm... I'm pretty sure marine relates to saltwater mostly BUT I think it would also be with fresh was well. Like instead of water bio-... Nevermind let's just call me an idiot. That's what I'm feeling like now
I’m sorry rocky I didn’t mean to make you feel like that
 
There is a lot of misinformation in this hobby and it is not at all surprising than beginning aquarists get the wrong information and why should it be questioned, it is on the internet after all. That is the problem. We are not the idiots.

I come from a generation that sincerely believed that everything of value was learned from those who have the knowledge--parents, teachers, university professors, trained scientists. This is not a very popular view these days, and it is no surprise that we have the messes we have because of it. When I was told I had cancer with maybe six months to live, I listened to the advice of my oncologist because he is trained in this field. He has saved my life, and things continue to improve. Researching from knowledgeable sources as opposed to even watching the nonsense offered by the half-baked idiots who run the majority of so-called fish sites on the internet is comparable to my not listening to my oncologist but instead taking advice from the nice old lady reading tea leaves at the county fair.
 
There is a lot of misinformation in this hobby and it is not at all surprising than beginning aquarists get the wrong information and why should it be questioned, it is on the internet after all. That is the problem. We are not the idiots.

I come from a generation that sincerely believed that everything of value was learned from those who have the knowledge--parents, teachers, university professors, trained scientists. This is not a very popular view these days, and it is no surprise that we have the messes we have because of it. When I was told I had cancer with maybe six months to live, I listened to the advice of my oncologist because he is trained in this field. He has saved my life, and things continue to improve. Researching from knowledgeable sources as opposed to even watching the nonsense offered by the half-baked idiots who run the majority of so-called fish sites on the internet is comparable to my not listening to my oncologist but instead taking advice from the nice old lady reading tea leaves at the county fair.
I can completely agree with that but my issue of believing I'm not smart runs deeper than that... I have trust issues and when I do trust, I trust too much... Then like on here where I kept thinking I knew something and then was wrong was very embarassing... And I know everyone learns something new at some point but it's hard to explain for me...
Then I have my math which I feel like I'm way behind on.
Then of course my depression and anxiety I don't talk to anyone about which heightens all my insecurities.
Then definitely my family issues just make me go into a "quiet panic attack".
Then when I say all these things it makes me feel like people may think making it all up just for attention like a past member here but I truthfully go through all this...
So yah I have the issue of assuming things as well.
I hate the way my brain works at times. It's 24/7 running. My mom says to stop the input and just have "quiet times" which may help but I feel like the music helps me... If I just have quiet time I'm afraid I will spiral downwards like I did one day a few years back while whittling a piece of wood... That knife was almost used for something else.
Never told anyone about it. This is actually my first time bringing it up I think... I THINK... There may have been one friend that knew.

I start thinking I'm dumb especially when someone my own age starts using slang I don't know or when I'm doing work for my grade level and I can't figure out the dang problem... Or there's a word I don't know.
Like I have said before in another thread, I don't have a big vocabulary. I HATE THAT! And when I try to learn new words it's like my brain rejects it...

Anyways sorry to rant on... I have just been really harsh on myself lately...
I just jacked the thread, sorry for that. I will get off now so I don't do anything else dumb here...
 
I can completely agree with that but my issue of believing I'm not smart runs deeper than that... I have trust issues and when I do trust, I trust too much... Then like on here where I kept thinking I knew something and then was wrong was very embarassing... And I know everyone learns something new at some point but it's hard to explain for me...
Then I have my math which I feel like I'm way behind on.
Then of course my depression and anxiety I don't talk to anyone about which heightens all my insecurities.
Then definitely my family issues just make me go into a "quiet panic attack".
Then when I say all these things it makes me feel like people may think making it all up just for attention like a past member here but I truthfully go through all this...
So yah I have the issue of assuming things as well.
I hate the way my brain works at times. It's 24/7 running. My mom says to stop the input and just have "quiet times" which may help but I feel like the music helps me... If I just have quiet time I'm afraid I will spiral downwards like I did one day a few years back while whittling a piece of wood... That knife was almost used for something else.
Never told anyone about it. This is actually my first time bringing it up I think... I THINK... There may have been one friend that knew.

I start thinking I'm dumb especially when someone my own age starts using slang I don't know or when I'm doing work for my grade level and I can't figure out the dang problem... Or there's a word I don't know.
Like I have said before in another thread, I don't have a big vocabulary. I HATE THAT! And when I try to learn new words it's like my brain rejects it...

Anyways sorry to rant on... I have just been really harsh on myself lately...
I just jacked the thread, sorry for that. I will get off now so I don't do anything else dumb here...
If you ever want to talk I’m here and I understand all of that. Feel free to PM
 
I can completely agree with that but my issue of believing I'm not smart runs deeper than that... I have trust issues and when I do trust, I trust too much... Then like on here where I kept thinking I knew something and then was wrong was very embarassing... And I know everyone learns something new at some point but it's hard to explain for me...
Then I have my math which I feel like I'm way behind on.
Then of course my depression and anxiety I don't talk to anyone about which heightens all my insecurities.
Then definitely my family issues just make me go into a "quiet panic attack".
Then when I say all these things it makes me feel like people may think making it all up just for attention like a past member here but I truthfully go through all this...
So yah I have the issue of assuming things as well.
I hate the way my brain works at times. It's 24/7 running. My mom says to stop the input and just have "quiet times" which may help but I feel like the music helps me... If I just have quiet time I'm afraid I will spiral downwards like I did one day a few years back while whittling a piece of wood... That knife was almost used for something else.
Never told anyone about it. This is actually my first time bringing it up I think... I THINK... There may have been one friend that knew.

I start thinking I'm dumb especially when someone my own age starts using slang I don't know or when I'm doing work for my grade level and I can't figure out the dang problem... Or there's a word I don't know.
Like I have said before in another thread, I don't have a big vocabulary. I HATE THAT! And when I try to learn new words it's like my brain rejects it...

Anyways sorry to rant on... I have just been really harsh on myself lately...
I just jacked the thread, sorry for that. I will get off now so I don't do anything else dumb here...
Hey, man. Everybody makes mistakes, even the most experienced of people still makes mistakes. It's okay to be wrong. When we are wrong or when we make mistakes, we learn from it. Knowledge is power and when we learn, we grow. Nobody in this planet is dumb and nobody is perfect. Not everyone is knowledgeable in every subject and there's at least a subject or two in which everyone struggles. Just because you don't have a big vocabulary, it doesn't mean anything. Just like how a grade or score on a standardized test doesn't mean anything. Everybody learns differently and no one person has the same learning method. Some may learn differently than others, and that's okay. The most important aspect is that you are willing to learn and grow from your mistakes.
 
If you ever want to talk I’m here and I understand all of that. Feel free to PM
Thanks... I appreciate it...n that means a lot coming from someone like you.
Hey, man. Everybody makes mistakes, even the most experienced of people still makes mistakes. It's okay to be wrong. When we are wrong or when we make mistakes, we learn from it. Knowledge is power and when we learn, we grow. Nobody in this planet is dumb and nobody is perfect. Not everyone is knowledgeable in every subject and there's at least a subject or two in which everyone struggles. Just because you don't have a big vocabulary, it doesn't mean anything. Just like how a grade or score on a standardized test doesn't mean anything. Everybody learns differently and no one person has the same learning method. Some may learn differently than others, and that's okay. The most important aspect is that you are willing to learn and grow from your mistakes.
The funny thing is, I know... But my while my outer self sometimes smiles and makes people laugh, my inner self is in constant pain and regrets most everything I do...
So when I make someone smile, it gives me that brief little spark and I try to think back on those moments... But then theres days like this where I just feel like nothing... Or there's the days where its family turmoil and I'm truthfully afraid of what every second brings...
Now were just way off topic... Sorry lets get back on the subject here about soft water plants...
I can't keep talking like this... Don't know why I did. I never say this stuff. But maybe its because its online and it feels easier over the internet to say stuff like this...
 
yWhat plants will thrive in straight reverse osmosis water?
If you don't add any GH or fertilizer to RO water Norplant will grow. PLant need 14 nutrients to grow and water coming out of your RO system has zero nutrients. I have a RO water aquarium and from my presonal experience if you don't dose fertilizer or GH nothing grows. Now fish waste will put some nutrients in the water but you would likely have to overstock the tank to get enough and it may not be good for your fish.

GH is a measure of calcium and magnesium. Plants and fish need them. Most test kit can only measure down to about 1 degree which is 17.8 ppm. One degree is technically enough for plants is but If you get the calcium to magnesium ratio right but you are typically going to need a little more than that for good results.

One issue to keep in mind 1 to 3ppm of GH in a larger river is literally an unlimited supply for a plant. 3ppm (0.003 grams per liter) in 10,000 gallons ow water is 30 grams available to the plant. Basically an unlimited supply. in a 100 liter tank is only 0.6 grams. And if you have multiple plans and fish and bacterial all consuming it, it may not be enough.

The amazon river starts in the Andes Mountains in the west with is rock containing calcium and magnesium. Some flows underground pricking up more minerals and the pops up as a spring. And when a tree dies the wood rots releasing organics and all the minerals back into the water. So the mineral s in the water are consumed as fast as dead plants add it back.

My recommendation is to use a GH booster to maintain a GH of of 1 degree. For PH control don't use KH up or KH booster. Instead add a spoon full of crushed coral in your filter. This is mainly calcium carbonate with a small amount of magnesium carbonate. This will neutralize any acids that may cause the PH to drop and maintain the PH near 7. This controls the PH passively. Most fertilizers on the market don't have enough calcium or magneisum for plants. So a GH booster is required.
 
Marine biology is the study of organisms in water, that includes fresh, salt and brackish water. So a marine biologist is someone who studies living organisms in water. They might specialise and study freshwater invertebrates, or they might study seals and dolphins.

Everyone that keeps fish and watches them, is an amateur marine biologist.
 
Marine biology is the study of organisms in water, that includes fresh, salt and brackish water. So a marine biologist is someone who studies living organisms in water. They might specialise and study freshwater invertebrates, or they might study seals and dolphins.

Everyone that keeps fish and watches them, is an amateur marine biologist.
Marine biology is marine (sea) ecosystems

limnology is the freshwater equivalent, the study of freshwater ecosystems, rivers, lakes, ponds etc
:)
 
Marine biology is marine (sea) ecosystems

limnology is the freshwater equivalent, the study of freshwater ecosystems, rivers, lakes, ponds etc
:)
Must be different in the states. I know a few marine biologists (they call themselves marine biologists) who study freshwater fishes of Australia.
 
Must be different in the states. I know a few marine biologists (they call themselves marine biologists) who study freshwater fishes of Australia.
That’s interesting!
 
If you don't add any GH or fertilizer to RO water Norplant will grow. PLant need 14 nutrients to grow and water coming out of your RO system has zero nutrients. I have a RO water aquarium and from my presonal experience if you don't dose fertilizer or GH nothing grows. Now fish waste will put some nutrients in the water but you would likely have to overstock the tank to get enough and it may not be good for your fish.

GH is a measure of calcium and magnesium. Plants and fish need them. Most test kit can only measure down to about 1 degree which is 17.8 ppm. One degree is technically enough for plants is but If you get the calcium to magnesium ratio right but you are typically going to need a little more than that for good results.

One issue to keep in mind 1 to 3ppm of GH in a larger river is literally an unlimited supply for a plant. 3ppm (0.003 grams per liter) in 10,000 gallons ow water is 30 grams available to the plant. Basically an unlimited supply. in a 100 liter tank is only 0.6 grams. And if you have multiple plans and fish and bacterial all consuming it, it may not be enough.

The amazon river starts in the Andes Mountains in the west with is rock containing calcium and magnesium. Some flows underground pricking up more minerals and the pops up as a spring. And when a tree dies the wood rots releasing organics and all the minerals back into the water. So the mineral s in the water are consumed as fast as dead plants add it back.

My recommendation is to use a GH booster to maintain a GH of of 1 degree. For PH control don't use KH up or KH booster. Instead add a spoon full of crushed coral in your filter. This is mainly calcium carbonate with a small amount of magnesium carbonate. This will neutralize any acids that may cause the PH to drop and maintain the PH near 7. This controls the PH passively. Most fertilizers on the market don't have enough calcium or magneisum for plants. So a GH booster is required.
You can also use epsom salts and calcium chloride (often sold as spa additive) to boost GH if you can’t get GH booster like me. My water is super soft even though it’s from a well and I add a little from time to time to help the fish and plants and especially snails.
This link is to a calculator that tells you exactly how much to add achieve x amount of magnesium or calcium in your tank volume. Be sure to use actual tank volume, not what your tank may be called nominally which is a lot more than the actual amount of water in it.

 

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