so sick and tired

[laurasmithuk]

hi all, am having so much trouble with the tank in my signiture i dont know what to do! i am feeling so depressed about it all..... might just sell tank and give up but then the other half of me wants to stick with it!

so heres story so far..... last week i accidently unplugged filter so tank went through mini cycle unfortunatly i lost my 2 kuhli loachs and a neon due to this.... anyway with regular small water changes i managed to get ammonia and nitrIte back to zero with NitrAte being 20 (same as tap water). they have stayed at this level for about a week now and tested them today still ok!

onr oe my probs is that my male dwarf gourami appers to have cloudy eyes like there is something stuck to them he seems ok just has this on his eyes! my platties all look really ill and just lay at the bottom but seem to be feeding ok.... i lost my male platty tonight! and then my last problem is i originally had 6 lampeye but now there only seems to be 2 cant see others anywhere could they have been eaten? when i got the lampeye i realised one had a cotton wool like mark above its head so im currently treating tank with protozin for fungus.....

any ideas what all these problems could be? im at my wits end and although i love my fish very much im struggling to cope with problems! sorry for long post am just hoping that someone can please help me!

 

[WILDER]

Sorry for your problems, right cloudy eye is a symtom of a desease rather than a desease in it's self, is there any bulging of the eye as well,the fluffy bit of fungus sounds like columnaris which is a bacteria desease.

 

[WILDER]

http/www.nippyfish.net/flexibacter.html

 

[WILDER]

Here is some information to cloudy eye but not the writer of it.

Cloudy Eye- Cloudy eye can have many causes. Look for signs of Velvet Disease, Ick, and Fish tuberculosis. However, sometimes this is caused due to bacterial infections. Symptoms: One or both eyes become cloudy, and take a whitish appearance. Fish may show signs of distress, and be off-color and behave abnormally. Treatment: Establishing the likely cause of the problem and treating it as soon as possible is the best way to prevent damage to your fish's nervous system. The incidences of cloudy eye can be maintained by keeping the water quality in a good condition, and adding a small amount of aquarium salt to the water at water changes. There are many good medications available at your local pet stores that deal with this problem. Follow the recommended accordingly.

 

[laurasmithuk]

that does sound like the prob.... now my water is stable and has been for a while am i doing the right thing? i am using protozin - which is a treatment for ick,velvet and fungus is this ok? are they likely to get better? i feel so guilty because of all of this probably stems from me unplugging my filter! cheers for all your help mate

 

[WILDER]

I would add a bacteria med as well to cover it, good luck.

 

[Raz]

wrong.

Dumping a bunch of crap in your tank will not help. Youll just kill the bacteria in your filter and create more probs... a perfect filter should filter 5.5 times the tanks volume per hour. I recommend a 1/4 water chg and dont feed the fish for 4 or 5 days...just leave it sit...The damage has been done.

Tho you might want to add 2 drops per gallon of meth blue and let that go for a few days....turn off the powerheads and filters and just run air stones....this will allow the meds to work and not be sucked up by the filter...

 

[WILDER]

She lives in the uk we don't have excess to antibiotlics so for columnaris desease we have to use a fungus plus a bacteria med.

 

[kimbowee]

Turning off the filter completely will only cause the tank to cycle again causing more problems and more suceptibility to diease again. You can avoid the filter removing the medicine by removing the carbon from the filter. If you have the filters with the carbon already in it you can slice the side open and rinse the filter out in used tank water, not tap water, until you have removed all of the carbon.

If the disease is indeed columnaris, methylane blue will not treat it at all & will only cause you to overmedicate your fish for something they don't have.

Here is a website where you can maybe identify what your fish has. Fish diseases

Other advice is to do a 20% water change daily. Not sure if Melafix & Pimafix are available in the UK. I had an outbreak of Columnaris in my livebearer tank quite awhile ago & Melafix & Pimafix cleared it right up & did not harm the biological filter.

Just my $.02 worth. Best of luck. Don't give up yet. Once you get your tank stabilized it is definitely worth it to sit back and enjoy your hard work.

 

[laurasmithuk]

there aint no way im going to unplug filter this caused probs in first place. had 4 of my lampeye disappear to day dont understand where they have gone! also another plattie died

 

[laurasmithuk]

can i add the bact treatment whilst treating tank for fungus? if not how long before i can? i want o finish the course i have started really

 

[WILDER]

Yes add it to the tank i've used them both together, good luck.

 

[Miss Dib Dabs]

Do you have any airstones running in the tank? Some medications can lower the oxygen content of the water and stress the fish also. Worth having one if not.
Sorry you're having such a hard time of it tho. Best of luck.
Hugs,
P.

 

[laurasmithuk]

yeah there is an air stone running..... some good news though my male dwarf gourami that had cloudy eye seems to have cleared up a bit.

i dont understand though where all my lampeye has gone i had six now i can only see two. could they have been eaten?

 

[Miss Dib Dabs]

It is possible. If there are hiding places in the tank or large plants they can hide and seem to disappear for days tho. I had this with one of my baby synos. After a fortnight+ I honestly thought he'd died and been eaten. Then, having had a mini emergency with a predatorial fish I took in (and promptly got rehomed) and a slight shift around of fish, on moving them back to their home I'd had to move some things in my very well planted 35g. When putting the fake tree root ornament back into place I went to lift it out to check for snails in the top where there's a sorta hole bit. I put my fingers in only to find a rather irate catfish slapping it's tail at me. Naturally I put the root straight back in place and left him alone. )
I do hope they turn up for you. I still have trouble locating my three otos as it's hard to tell if you're seeing one or many if they aren't together. Yes, the tank really is heavily planted!!
Hugs,
P.