SHOULD WE KEEP FISH CAUGHT FROM THE WILD?

[Jae1525]

I'm with you on this Madd.

It's all about ballance. I dont wanna sound like a hippy but it is.

You take something off the seasaw of life you should be responsible to put somethin back on to even the sway!

Unlike George W and Tony B who take the oil from the east and stack it on the west side of the seasaw! They try to even it out by stackin the dead bodys of marines and Iraqi poeple on the east side!

 

[mrV]

My point is that if your going to take somthing out of an environment eventualy it will effect a wider and wider ammounts of species beacuse the balance is interfeard with.

What about CITES-aggreement which is already made to protect e.g. fishes and it's providing it that any species won't die out or being in danger. Unfortunately there are only few aquarium fishes on that list.

Do you think these ppl take the time to breed the fish they catch or catch more to make more money to feed their family? I think we know the answer to that one without a poll!

Now you're mixing western civilization and those humble people together! They don't need fast cabriolets, or computers. They don't need mobile phones etc... It's enough for them to survive and get their payment. Of course everybody wants to be rich, but...

And yes, it's a huge business even in South-America (but more in Asia). And local authorities have even set some limits to some species. For example for cardinal tetra!! Do you believe, for cardinals! Yes, it's true. There are close seasons when this fish is not allowed to catch. Nowadays there are some breeding plants in S-America too and not every fishes are catched from nature.

There is only opinions here and yours is just as valid as anyone elses (unless we have any members of parliament of presidents in here?)

Probably I just understood it wrong, but what was the idea of this sentence? People who are not members of any parliament, don't know anything and their writings are only "opinions"? I had to understand this sentence wrong

 

[The-Wolf]

It is to my opinion that public aquariums and zoo's interested in the presevation of species should be the only places where it is acceptable to keep "wild fish".

What do you think?

i'm in total aggreement

see endangered flora and fawna to see just how bad things are getting

 

[White Whale]

I voted NO. What we catch from the wild is bounty for the dinner table.

 

[CFC]

We would have a pretty poor and boring selection of fish if we didnt have any wild caught species, i for one wouldnt bother to keep fish anymore if all i was left with to keep was livebearers, a few common community fish and a handful of cichlids, at least half the fish i own are wild caught species.

The tropical fish industry in the amazon basin keeps hundreds if not thousands of natives in work and gives them something else to do for a living rather than cutting down acres of rain forest for the timber trade or growing crops (including illegal drugs), if the taking of wild fish was outlawed then it wouldnt be long before there were no rain forests left at all.

 

[blakwidoe]

no its not ok IMHO.
How would you like it if someone caught you and caged you up in the name of a hobby?

 

[Phantom Thief]

Well, if the person caged me up in a place that is exactly the same as my home, and with my friends too, i dont give a damn. Might be better since i wont have to go to school too.

P.T.

 

[mrV]

(including illegal drugs), if the taking of wild fish was outlawed then it wouldnt be long before there were no rain forests left at all.

yep, opium is very easy to grow and sell. And it means easy money cost of nature and animals.

Once (in the beginning of 1990) there were some people who wanted to have some list (they were called "positive lists") of fishes that are allowed to keep in aquariums and those fishes were only about 40 on that list - all being easy to breed. Other fishes wouldn't have been allowed to keep in tanks. The proposal weren't accepted in "Bundestag", because discussion of disadvantage of what this list would cause and many of these disadvantages were affecting/concerning environmental protection.

How would you like it if someone caught you and caged you up in the name of a hobby?

How does it make any difference, do I have fishes from nature or from breeding plants? They both should be treated in same way; if you're going to keep fish, you take good care of them!

 

[aberdeen aquarist]

what would we do if no-one had collected the first wild fish,
none of us would even have aquariums!!!
of course we should take fish from the wild if they are plentiful and try to help by breeding as many rarer species as we can.

 

[Dwarfs]

If people had never caught and kept fish, their would be no hobby today And some fish have to be wild caught because they are hard to breed. Sure today it may be wrong but, without keeping wild fish we wouldn't have fish!

 

[Pleco-Heaven]

Maybe if they were pests in the waterways, or they were feral yeah. But it would be cruel to take an animal out of its natural enviroment.

 

[Bol]

Sure we should.

As with everything, though, I think a littlle common sense is in order.

And, to repeat one thing others have mentioned -- how many of our fish are wild-caught, I encourage those who say "no, it's cruel" to look at the fish lists in their signatures ... and see how many of those fish are not tank-bred.

 

[Jae1525]

I'm glad to see a good mass-debate has emerged from this poll and stimulated us all!

 

[CFC]

no its not ok IMHO.
How would you like it if someone caught you and caged you up in the name of a hobby?

IMHO its much worse to keep shoaling species singularly, maybe you should get another 2 clown loaches before you start throwing stones oh and the clown loach is also more than likely wild caught too.

And, to repeat one thing others have mentioned -- how many of our fish are wild-caught, I encourage those who say "no, it's cruel" to look at the fish lists in their signatures ... and see how many of those fish are not tank-bred.

Yes this is the truth of it, loaches, most tetras, L# plecos, most corydoras, infact most catfish full stop, puffers, bichirs and many more are all wild caught, would you really want to not ever be able to keep any fish other than the most commonly seen easy to breed ones?

 

[nightlife20]

is it true that most of the botia and some of the catfish species are actualy taken from the wild because they are hard to breed?




if as someone said, they are not extinct and researchers can surmise how many are born and actualy live each year and its found to be plentiful, then yes i think we could be ok takin them from the wild, only if an eye is kept on the population figures.... sort of like a census(sp)

but if its found to be low then no... that species should be left well alone for a few years untill the population re-grows.