Setting up a new tank with fish from existing tank

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Hey guys,
I need advice on the best way to go about setting up my new tank. My old tank was bought second hand and is at the end of its second life. I bought a brand new tank and need advice as to how to go about making the switch. I have a sponge filter in the old tank that I'm going to place in the new tank for a bit before making the switch. It has a lot of good bacteria in it and I'll be keeping all the media in the canister filter when I make the switch also. Not sure if this is right or wrong but from things I've read online it says to try to keep as much good bacteria from the old tank as possible.
I would just love any step by step instructions from some of the experts in the forum. I have some pretty old fish and I would hate to lose them just because of a stupid mistake I made.
 

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Are they both the same size? It looks like a 75g or maybe 55g.
I would fill the new tank, get the water up to temperature and transfer both filters to the new tank and run them while you drain the old tank amd catch the fish.
You basically have established filters with lots of BB, if you transfer the filters you should have no issues. Just make sure your water parameters are the same.
 
Ok, that's what I thought. They are both 75 gallon. I filled the new one and have a small sponge filter running for now. I have an extra heater so I'll get that set up and warm up the tank. Should I transfer the live plants ahead of time or do that all at the same time when I transfer the fish? The plants aren't in the best shape right now but I'm hoping in the new tank I can focus more on bringing them back
 
Transfer the plants first. It's also easier to catch the fish without the plants in the old tank. I would buy some more - Cryptocoryne are very hardy and comes in a lot of varieties.
 
Yeah, I gotta buy a lot more. Realized the hard way that most of my plants do better glued onto driftwood, not shoved in gravel. I'm going to do some more research and buy some decent plants. I also struggle with lighting. I have a multitude of lights from a Fluval Aquasky to the Fluval Plant. I still have my old school florescent too. The Fluvals are great lights if you can get the right color adjustments. I can't. I've been fighting that awful rust colored algae ever since I got the lights. I may try going back to the good ole florescent. If you have any suggestions let LOVE to hear them 😁
 
I wouldn't put the old sponge in the new tank early, as without the fish the bacteria in it will die from lack of food (i.e. the fish waste).
 
I have done this many times. Plants first, then filters and fish as the same process. With equal water parameters and temperatures, it's like a big water change.
 
Yeah, I gotta buy a lot more. Realized the hard way that most of my plants do better glued onto driftwood, not shoved in gravel. I'm going to do some more research and buy some decent plants. I also struggle with lighting. I have a multitude of lights from a Fluval Aquasky to the Fluval Plant. I still have my old school florescent too. The Fluvals are great lights if you can get the right color adjustments. I can't. I've been fighting that awful rust colored algae ever since I got the lights. I may try going back to the good ole florescent. If you have any suggestions let LOVE to hear them 😁
The rust/brown algae are diatoms, it's usually more of a new tank algae and usually it just disappears on its own.
 
These algae also thrive under poor light conditions and when there are not enough plants.
I use a lot of different lights. Mostly cheap noname China LEDs. If your light ist programmable you should be able to find the right parameters online.
 
The rust/brown algae are diatoms, it's usually more of a new tank algae and usually it just disappears on its own.
I've been fighting this algae for at least a year. I've had the tank set up for about 7 years now. At first I was dealing with the dreaded bba (black beard algae) and now the red algae. The tank is also getting a lot of natural light hence the change into a new room with the new set up. I've just struggled with algae since getting live plants which is around 6+ years. Tried differ plants and different lights. I just don't seem to have a green thumb with aquatic plants 😢
These algae also thrive under poor light conditions and when there are not enough plants.
I use a lot of different lights. Mostly cheap noname China LEDs. If your light ist programmable you should be able to find the right parameters online.

The rust/brown algae are diatoms, it's usually more of a new tank algae and usually it just disappears on its own.

The rust/brown algae are diatoms, it's usually more of a new tank algae and usually it just disappears on its own.
I've been fighting this algae for at least a year. I've had the tank set up for about 7 years now. At first I was dealing with the dreaded bba (black beard algae) and now the red algae. The tank is also getting a lot of natural light hence the change into a new room with the new set up. I've just struggled with algae since getting live plants which is around 6+ years. Tried differ plants and different lights. I just don't seem to have a green thumb with aquatic plants 😢
 
These algae also thrive under poor light conditions and when there are not enough plants.
I use a lot of different lights. Mostly cheap noname China LEDs. If your light ist programmable you should be able to find the right parameters online.
My lights are programmable, Fluval Plant and Fluval Aquasky. I just can't seem to get the right program. I've looked online and tried other people's programs. I just don't have luck
 
I've been fighting this algae for at least a year. I've had the tank set up for about 7 years now. At first I was dealing with the dreaded bba (black beard algae) and now the red algae. The tank is also getting a lot of natural light hence the change into a new room with the new set up. I've just struggled with algae since getting live plants which is around 6+ years. Tried differ plants and different lights. I just don't seem to have a green thumb with aquatic plants 😢





I've been fighting this algae for at least a year. I've had the tank set up for about 7 years now. At first I was dealing with the dreaded bba (black beard algae) and now the red algae. The tank is also getting a lot of natural light hence the change into a new room with the new set up. I've just struggled with algae since getting live plants which is around 6+ years. Tried differ plants and different lights. I just don't seem to have a green thumb with aquatic plants 😢
Yeah I struggle with aquatic plants as well. I find it odd because I'm really good at terrestrial plants. I think my aquatic style is chaos gardening. That's where you throw a bunch of different plants in and see what survives.
 
I get a little red algae when I have epiphytic plants in tanks - Anubias, Bolbitis and java ferns. I don't get it in problematic amounts when I have lots of rooted plants.

With my fancier LED fixtures, I have less of it compared to when I have ones I can't adjust.

Why? I don't quite know because the version I get here, a circular patch one that can turn into red side walls if left alone isn't a major problem. But it's there.
 
Yeah I struggle with aquatic plants as well. I find it odd because I'm really good at terrestrial plants. I think my aquatic style is chaos gardening. That's where you throw a bunch of different plants in and see what survives.
LOL! I haven't tried this technique yet. Sounds like a good plan.
 
I have done this a number of times over the years. it is inportant to use the same substrate if possible. I normally do things this way.

1. I try to leave the fish in the original tank if I can. I leave the filters running. Then I remove the plants to a container with clean water. Next, I syphomn out the substrate abnd rtansfer it to the new tank. If I need more new substrate I want that to go in before the old. The old will hold some amount of good bacteria and this normalltt beeds to be lesss than an inch deep in terms of the bacteria being able to survice because it needs oxygen. This chabges when you have plants in the substrate. There can be bacteria deeper as some plants actually transport oxygen into the anaerobic area around roots to foster an environement were the nitrifying bacteria anc thrive.

Be sure to have new safe water available since siphoning out substrat does remove a lot of the water. You need to replace water to insure the fish will be doing OK. This replacement water needs to be dechlored if you use dechlor.

2. I want there to be some water in the new tank to insure the substrate stays wet. The next step is that I place the decor- wood, rocks etc. where they will go. This water needs to be dechlored if you use dechlor.

3. I add more water and begin to put the plants into the tank. My normal practice for planting a tank is to do it in 3 stages based on the height of the plants. 1st I do the shorter forgrount plants having raised the water level to where these plants will be submerged as I plant them.

4. Once the fore-gound is done I add more water so I can plant the mid-ground heoight stuff so it will be submerged as I do.

5. I then add enough water to plant the taller background height plants.

6. Now it is time to move over the filter or filters and heaters. Most of my tanks have at least 2 filters on them and they will have 2 heaters as well/ So I move the bigger filter over first and leave another on the old tank. I move one heater as well. Once I have the filter running on the new tank it is time to catch and move the fish. However, make sure the water temp in the new tank is in the proper range for the fish.

7. Once I have moved the fish I then move the second filter (if there is one) and the same with a second heater. What you should have at this stage is almost everything from the old tank moved into the new tank. You can add new plants and decor you want to add to the new tanks during the appror[pirate stage for doing so. What is left behind is a dirty old tank and you can dispose of it as you see fit.

8. Of course you should be moving things like thermometers and lights as well. You will need to have lights on both tanks for the move so you can see what you are doing. You may need to buy new lighting rither to add to what you have or to replace it with something stronger/bigger.

9. For a week or so after you make the transfer the tank should be safe for the fish but may not be. So, test ammonia twice a day to make sure. You may have some loss of bacterial capacity or you may not. Testing will tell you. I would not feed the fish for at least 24 hours before the move and not for 24 hours after. The more the fish breath and poop, the more of their ammonia creation capacity increases. Plus uneaten food can make ammonia as well. If you see no ammonia after the move you can start feeding the fish the next day.

Bear in mind that under optimal conditions the ammonia bacteria can double in about 8 hours and the noitrite ones more like 11 or 12. If you lose 1/4 lf the bacteria, reproduction will replce that loss in a few hours. So do not panic if you get some lower level readings. The toxiciyt of ammonia in water is based on the ph and temperature of the water. Higher means more toxic. Most test kits measure both forms of ammonia in water and it is the NH3 form that is highly toxic. if you are not familiar witrh how this works there is an excellent expalantion in the cycling article on this site.

Have a read of this rescue article: https://www.fishforums.net/threads/rescuing-a-fish-in-cycle-gone-wild-part-il.433778/ There is a section in this article that deals with ammonia and the difference between NH3 (ammonia the gas) and NH4 (ammonium). The first is toxic at lower levels while the second is way less so.

If you get stuck on any of the above feel free to shoot me a site PM. I get email notifications for these but I do not track thread replies specifically. I am retired and online all the time so I will see the email notification for your PM.
 

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