Salt

[SlyPolak]

Okay, I posted this in discussion and got no clear answer, so I was hoping someone would be able to help me out here....
I recently setup a cichlid (Mbuna) aquarium... all is going well and I have read that you should use cichlid salt or API aquarium salt to simulate their natural environment a bit more, also read that its healthier for the fish.(electrolytes, etc.)

SO, this is my question regarding synodontis and salt. Would the salt harm my trio of Synodontis Eupterus? I understand that they are from the same kind of environment as Mbuna BUT I have also read that most catfish are highly intolerant to salt!

What do you guys/gals think?

EDIT: But at the same time the people that say cichlid NEED salt reminds of the same people that say ANY freshwater aquarium NEEDS salt (BULL)...

 

[Squidward]

What are your water stats? (Ph and hardness)
Mbuna need relatively hard water and high ph. If your water is soft with a low ph, there are products you can use to make the water more suitable. This is not standard salt.
So it shouldn't harm the catfish.

 

[raptorrex]

Would the salt harm my trio of Synodontis Eupterus?

clear and unequivocal YES.

scale-less fish and salt don't mix, even as a med.

there is a good rule of thumb as to if fish need/benefit from salt, in their water. do they live in Brackish or Marine environment? if, they don't, they don't need salt. there really isn't an, in-between, unless you wish to sell some salt.

 

[the biffster]

Okay, I posted this in discussion and got no clear answer, so I was hoping someone would be able to help me out here....
I recently setup a cichlid (Mbuna) aquarium... all is going well and I have read that you should use cichlid salt or API aquarium salt to simulate their natural environment a bit more, also read that its healthier for the fish.(electrolytes, etc.)

SO, this is my question regarding synodontis and salt. Would the salt harm my trio of Synodontis Eupterus? I understand that they are from the same kind of environment as Mbuna BUT I have also read that most catfish are highly intolerant to salt!

What do you guys/gals think?

EDIT: But at the same time the people that say cichlid NEED salt reminds of the same people that say ANY freshwater aquarium NEEDS salt (BULL)...

i know what you are thinking of
slypolak i have seen the same stuff
advertised in the fish mags and pet shops
is this the stuff your on about

http/www.seachem.com/Products/product_pages/CichlidLakeSalt.html

 

[Realtree]

I cannot give you an answer specific to Synodontis Eupterus but in my mbuna tank in which I do use and recommend using seachem cichlid salt I have 6 synodontis multipunctatus(which are growing and thriving well).
The seachem salt has particular dosages to particular rift lakes ie malawi = 1/3 teaspoon per 10L (ish) So your water stats can match the natural enviroment of the lake concerned.
I use the salts as I attempt to replicate the same water conditions as found in lake malawi as I have wild caught fish. I believe that its usage would be benificial but could be argued against if rearing tank bred fish.

 

[SlyPolak]

My Ph is at an even and steady 8.0 hardness as follows-- GH~ 143.2 ppm(8 dKH) and KH~ 125.3 ppm(7 dKH)

And yes, I am talking about the Seachems salt mainly..... I was just wondering if it would benefit and or harm my syno's.. I assume they are all tank bred because its PetCo fish (only real fish "shop" around here)... but I have learned that PetCo mainly gets their fish stock from here ---> http/segrestfarms.com/

I understand that salt is bad for most scaleless but dont syno's live in the same waters as Mbuna?

 

[the biffster]

My Ph is at an even and steady 8.0 hardness as follows-- GH~ 143.2 ppm(8 dKH) and KH~ 125.3 ppm(7 dKH)

And yes, I am talking about the Seachems salt mainly..... I was just wondering if it would benefit and or harm my syno's.. I assume they are all tank bred because its PetCo fish (only real fish "shop" around here)... but I have learned that PetCo mainly gets their fish stock from here ---> http/segrestfarms.com/

I understand that salt is bad for most scaleless but dont syno's live in the same waters as Mbuna?

thats just what i was think
did you read my mind slypolak

 

[SlyPolak]

My Ph is at an even and steady 8.0 hardness as follows-- GH~ 143.2 ppm(8 dKH) and KH~ 125.3 ppm(7 dKH)

And yes, I am talking about the Seachems salt mainly..... I was just wondering if it would benefit and or harm my syno's.. I assume they are all tank bred because its PetCo fish (only real fish "shop" around here)... but I have learned that PetCo mainly gets their fish stock from here ---> http/segrestfarms.com/

I understand that salt is bad for most scaleless but dont syno's live in the same waters as Mbuna?

thats just what i was think
did you read my mind slypolak

YES

lol.. I guess we just think alike...



P.S. LITTLE BRITAIN RULES!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[Squidward]

My Ph is at an even and steady 8.0 hardness as follows-- GH~ 143.2 ppm(8 dKH) and KH~ 125.3 ppm(7 dKH)

And yes, I am talking about the Seachems salt mainly..... I was just wondering if it would benefit and or harm my syno's.. I assume they are all tank bred because its PetCo fish (only real fish "shop" around here)... but I have learned that PetCo mainly gets their fish stock from here ---> http/segrestfarms.com/

I understand that salt is bad for most scaleless but dont syno's live in the same waters as Mbuna?

With those stats, you don't need to be adding anything to your water. It is fine as it is.

The salts being refered to are minerals, not sea salt. Malawis are fresh water fish and would not survive long term in it either. So if it is fine for the Malawis, it is fine for the catfish.

 

[the biffster]

My Ph is at an even and steady 8.0 hardness as follows-- GH~ 143.2 ppm(8 dKH) and KH~ 125.3 ppm(7 dKH)

And yes, I am talking about the Seachems salt mainly..... I was just wondering if it would benefit and or harm my syno's.. I assume they are all tank bred because its PetCo fish (only real fish "shop" around here)... but I have learned that PetCo mainly gets their fish stock from here ---> http/segrestfarms.com/

I understand that salt is bad for most scaleless but dont syno's live in the same waters as Mbuna?

thats just what i was think
did you read my mind slypolak

YES

lol.. I guess we just think alike...



P.S. LITTLE BRITAIN RULES!!!!!!!!!!!!!

"thought"you were


i know !!! i want that one

 

[raptorrex]

Okay, I posted this in discussion and got no clear answer, so I was hoping someone would be able to help me out here....
I recently setup a cichlid (Mbuna) aquarium... all is going well and I have read that you should use cichlid salt or API aquarium salt to simulate their natural environment a bit more, also read that its healthier for the fish.(electrolytes, etc.)

SO, this is my question regarding synodontis and salt. Would the salt harm my trio of Synodontis Eupterus? I understand that they are from the same kind of environment as Mbuna BUT I have also read that most catfish are highly intolerant to salt!

What do you guys/gals think?

EDIT: But at the same time the people that say cichlid NEED salt reminds of the same people that say ANY freshwater aquarium NEEDS salt (BULL)...

seachums Cichlid salt is fine. but you will need to establish the "normal water stats" prior to dosing. if you are looking to change water perimeters, much, you will need a buffer. seachums do one. I've had 2 Eupterus for several years now, though not in a "cichlid" set up. they're quite adaptable, to peramiters and environment. though they cant adapt to the addition below .

API salt will seriously badly effect your fish, all or them. but, as i said, scale-less fish are in danger if its used.