Reply from seller for ebay item ...

DJGonzo69 said:
I was not trying to insult Thailand or other countries that fight Betta's. What I wanted to point out was different cultures will have different ways than others.
It's acceptable for them to fight Betta's, but I'm sure it's not acceptable to us. Just as it's illegal to have pitbull or cockfights. No insult intended  :look:
Just as putting bettas in small,tiny bowls is commonly practiced here in the US,but you rarely see such a thing in the UK. And don't even get me started on Finland. It is LAW there that each fish have ten gallons of it's own. Not that I'm knocking that mind you. Just different strokes for different folks. None of which makes us any crueler than the next (well,maybe a little as far as those tiny cups go,but again,cruelty is in the eyes of the beholder)
 
Its a different mind set. You see it here with other pets as well. Some people spoil and pamper their dogs and treat them like children. Others are still of the mind set that a dog is an animal and that keeping it outdoors 24/7/365 with a little peaked roof house is perfectly logical and acceptable. Fish are seen as cheap easy pets, if they die, no big whoop, we'll buy more. Theyre not furry so they don't need to be treated like a furry pet, etc, etc. But times, and mind set are changing. But its a slow process. With each generation those ideas are changing. People are seeing pet animals, all animals, as part of the family. They are recognizing that because these animals are domesticated, that we as humans, as their keepers, are fully responsible for them, they can't fend for themselves. But you're dealing with not just generational mindsets, but also cultural. This person who makes these tanks probably did her research when she first started with bettas. She went by what is done where the fish come from. She figured if it works for them, why not. Problem is, she is taking their "wild conditions" and applying it to tank raised creatures. They don't HAVE to try to exist (I say exist, not live, there is a difference) in the conditions their wild counterparts do, and being tank bred and raised, they are generations away from their wild counterparts and therefore maybe not as suited to enduring the same conditions. They NEED to be babied more.
While her tanks are a neat idea in theory, they are just too small. By her defensive reply, deep down, she feels the same way. But that mindset, and the almighty dollar, is keeping her from changing her mind and her methods.....
 
eek, i didnt mean to cause an arguement!!!!

Im just going to get a tank, is this big enough?

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That looks fine...........its all about educating people that buy these fish tank that is not really what your Betta should be kept in......ther don't seem to be a breeders club in the UK there is no shows of just bettas in the uk...all this myself and other are trying to get put on the map but if you go into an lfs which has just had bettas shipped in within a few days they are all gone.....no i don't believe they have lost them all as its going to be that some just don't make it so who is buying them, emmm.......and I'm sure this happens were YOU live regardless of which country so people are buying them but do they keep them properly do they know how i a while back got my local lfs to build a filtered barracks for his display and it has worked with him so i would say we just need to find the people and help them how many time do we see people come on here saying i have my first Betta please help................. :dunno: :dunno: :dunno: :dunno:
 
Bettaman, there isnt much awareness in the UK compared to what some of the americans have been saying, do you know of any places which provide more info on betta keeping?
When i go to fish shops in the UK i either get lectured by staff who think they know it all, or dont get asked much at all!!!!
 
Hmm... I don't think I've complained to this one :) And since I've seen a typical reply, I can tell him/her exactly how bettas live in the wild, how expensive her stuff is etc. etc. And a couple of goldfish???!?!?!?! WTF?!?!?! :eek:
 
Nope. Fish aren't animals are they? They're just litle robots that swim and eat and poo. In fact you might as well not call them alive at all. If one dies, who cares! Get a new one!
 
Thats wrong, imo it would be the same if you put a puppy in a cage that was just about big enough for him.

More people would kick off about a puppy than they would do if it were a fish ... yet they are both living, breathing animals :-(
 
Allix said:
Thats wrong, imo it would be the same if you put a puppy in a cage that was just about big enough for him.

More people would kick off about a puppy than they would do if it were a fish ... yet they are both living, breathing animals :-(
OohFeeshy was only using sarcasim, it's safe to ussume that he/she's words were not ment to be taken seriously. I know what you mean though. ;)
 
send a link of this topic to the seller.

it probably will do nothing, but there is a chance that she might listen to the people who truly know bettas best and perhaps she may change her mind.

so what if she houses 70 bettas a week? does she keep them for life?
my manager at work has the same type of attitude. just because he is a manager in a pet store, he thinks that he knows everything about fish. but isnt it funny that so many more customers who need help come in and ask for me... ;)
sorry-i got off topic a bit...

there will always be people trying to make a buck at the expense of a poor animal. i cant believe people actually buy her bowls though. what garbage. my 4 year old cousin could make the same things.
 
Here we are-
AS I SAID BEEN IN THE BETTA MANY YEARS AND STAND BY MY REPLY. I APPRIECATE YOUR REPLY AS WELL JUST AS AN EXAMPLE BABIES GROW TOO YOU DON'T BUY A SIZE 10 COAT AND WAIT FOR THEM TO GROW INTO IT?? HAVE YOU EVER BEEN TO THIALAND?? ARE YOU LISENCED TO SELL BETTA'S OR ANY OTHER FISH? DO YOU HAVE ANY BETTA OVER 4 YEARS OLD? IF BETTA'S NEED A 3 GALLON TANK THE FISH AND WILDLIFE COMMISSION WOULD MAKE ALL PET STORES HOUSE THEM IN 3 GALLON TANKS. ANYWAY I KNOW EVERY ONE HAS A CAUSE MY DOG HAS HIS OWN ROOM SO YOU CAN KEEP YOUR BETTA IN A 3 GALLON TANK IF YOU CHOOSE. THANKS FOR THE REPLY HAVE A NICE DAY.
 
touched a nerve i think, just spread the word if you can to make sure people dont buy things similar to the items she sells
 

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