Problem With Angel Fish

[tbright]

Hi, i've noticed within the last week or so that on 1 of the side fins of my angelfish has become damaged with a look of yellow/white kinda stuff apparant, i'm not too sure what it is, whether it's slime/velvet etc, it has only noticably started to scratch(allbeit not too often) on leaves and trying to run against the current of my filter more and more within the last day. Though, the confusing thing is that I can't see any slime or problems on the skin itself as well as the back fins which look healthy though his breathing is slightly heavier than usual I think.

Could this be the start of an emergence of a certain disease? Thoughts and opinions needed please. Btw, I've also hidden the tank in darkness while I type as a precaution to stunt it if it is indeed velvet.

 

[ArauraDiscus]

Please post a picture, I'm not sure what your describing.

 

[WILDER]

If the fish is scratching it self and heay breathing sounds like it could be velvet,

 

[Christine1014]

can you fill this out, please? It will help give us a better idea what's going on in your tank.

Tank size:
pH:
ammonia:
nitrite:
nitrate:
kH:
gH:
tank temp:

Fish Symptoms (include full description including lesion, color, location, fish behavior):

Volume and Frequency of water changes:

Chemical Additives or Media in your tank:

Tank inhabitants:

Recent additions to your tank (living or decoration):

Exposure to chemicals:

Digital photo (include if possible):

 

[tbright]

Tank size: 26(UK) gallons
pH:6
ammonia: The only test kit i can get hold of atm is the strips which doesn't contain this reading and I've heard aren't too accurate anyway..
nitrite:0
nitrate:10
kH:3
gH: 21
tank temp: 26

Fish Symptoms (include full description including lesion, color, location, fish behavior): It's a marble colour, orange/black/white. Small white kinda dots on the side fin with the fin shown to be damaged, it looks like pictures i've seen of velvet with like a kind of coat on it. All other parts of the fish are fine from what i've seen. It's behaviour has been of still very responsive to food and still moving well up and down the tank though every so often it seems to try and nudge up against leaves and breathing heavier than usual.

Volume and Frequency of water changes: Last week i did a full gravel clean with about 40% of the water being changed, before that it was over a month before it was last cleaned due to external reasons

Chemical Additives or Media in your tank: Only thing i've used is bacterlife.


Tank inhabitants: 2 clown loach, 2 angels, 2 small catfish (had them years so forgotten their name)

I'm currently getting this tank up and going again after the neglect its recieved and by reading these forums after the last view days to update my knowledge (which most was from a local fish shop and sadly seems to be wrong). Also when cleaning my tank out I had (which i later on here read not to do) cleaned out all my filters using tap water then soaking them in my last bucket of water that was going to be emptied into the toilet before re-installing the filters in the tank which i'm feeling guilty about Could this affect the cycle of my tank aswell?

Recent additions to your tank (living or decoration): Live plants(5) from local store were added last week after i did the water change.

Exposure to chemicals: Not as far as i'm aware.

I will try and get a picture up but my digital camera is in the retail shop being repaired.

Thanks for the replies i'll read back tomorrow when i'm up.

Tony.

 

[WILDER]

Your tanks overstocked.
Clown loaches need large tanks.
If the fish have grains of salt sized spots on the fins it whitepot.

 

[Christine1014]

Rinsing the filter media in tap water could have killed the bacteria, starting your cycle again - unfortunately we can't say for sure without an ammonia reading. But I think Wilder's right; you are overstocked. Depending what those catfish are, you could be a little overstocked, or have a real problem. If you haven't already, I'd say try a Google image search of white spot (also called Ick) and see how that compares to what your fish have. If you can get an ammonia test and we can confirm that your tank is indeed cycled, treating these guys should be relatively easy. If the tank's not cycled, though, there's no really easy solution since poor water quality is a contributing cause to most of these diseases.

 

[tbright]

Atm, the clown loach are an inch long and a half long each, and the catfish are an inch, i know the clown loach become large but it is slowly so i don't have to deal with re tanking them anytime that soon. The angel fish, too, are only about 2inches also so does that really consitute to overstocking?
Edit: I'll try and get hold of a better tester later today to give the ammonia reading.