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i have a red tail black shark which has steadily become more agressive with time. he is particularly violent towards a severum which is about 4" and a blue acara . he is constantly cornering fish and giving them a good pasting. i have temporariky aepereted him. if i left it a while and re inrtroduced it . would it behave differently or just go back to its same old ways ??
 
i have a red tail black shark which has steadily become more agressive with time. he is particularly violent towards a severum which is about 4" and a blue acara . he is constantly cornering fish and giving them a good pasting. i have temporariky aepereted him. if i left it a while and re inrtroduced it . would it behave differently or just go back to its same old ways ??

my guess, the tank is too small. despite their size, they need 50+ gallons. many say 100g/ beyond 4 inches, 50g but only if sparsely stocked.
 
There known for bad behavour.
Try some hiding places for him to see if that helps.
 
plenty of hiding places but he actively gos looking for fish to beat up if i put him back in in a couple of days do you rekon he would be different as he has just been introduced or is lkely to still be a sod
 
he might settle down I don't know.
Usually plenty of hiding spaces help as they like there own patch in the tank.
He's in a big tank so thats not the problem as they can be more aggressive if the tanks to small.
If he dosn't settle down you might have to phone the lfs to take him back.
 
They claim huge territories considering their size. Despite the size of the tank, he might have claimed the whole thing and is one of those sharks that simply won't tolerate anything else in its territory.

What kind of tankmates is he with? I would think robust fish that can take a beating or will punch back would be up to his behavior, though if you have any slow or delicate fish in the tank, it'd be better to remove him than replan the tank around him.
 
They claim huge territories considering their size. Despite the size of the tank, he might have claimed the whole thing and is one of those sharks that simply won't tolerate anything else in its territory.

What kind of tankmates is he with? I would think robust fish that can take a beating or will punch back would be up to his behavior, though if you have any slow or delicate fish in the tank, it'd be better to remove him than replan the tank around him.

sounds like good advice to me. some time back i had an RTBS and a Rainbow in the same 50ukg tank, things were fine, until i re styled the tank. within hours the RTBS had killed the Rainbow. my thought are even moving the enviroment makes this guy grumpy.
 
red tails and rainbows are known to be agressive as they are both territorial.

i have a redtail in with 2 severums in a smaller tank then that and have no problems.. i would imagin maybe when the severum gets bigger it wont be bothered anymore. as stated, lots of hiding spots, and not just plants.. use lots of caves and stuff they can hide in. if you still have a problem, its just a really aggressive shark, as it should be fine in those conditions.

gdluck
 
red tails and rainbows are known to be agressive as they are both territorial.

i have a redtail in with 2 severums in a smaller tank then that and have no problems.. i would imagin maybe when the severum gets bigger it wont be bothered anymore. as stated, lots of hiding spots, and not just plants.. use lots of caves and stuff they can hide in. if you still have a problem, its just a really aggressive shark, as it should be fine in those conditions.

gdluck
i must admit i have never heard of Rainbows being, over territorial, but you miss my point, both fish lived together for 12 months, with not one problem. the moment i changed the tank layout, problems occured. as such, any change or alteration may cause your shark to act differently. my RTS plays chace with the bala shark, but is never agressive, with anyone. given a 50ukg tank and not too heavy stocking, RTS even lives happyly with a Green Terror :crazy:
 
i must admit i have never heard of Rainbows being, over territorial,

They're better behaved than RTBS, but the entire genus has the same behavior patterns at some level or another. RTBS have the worse reputation of the two.

but you miss my point, both fish lived together for 12 months, with not one problem. the moment i changed the tank layout, problems occured. as such, any change or alteration may cause your shark to act differently.

What may have happened is as they grew up, you "lucked out" and they settled into stable territories. When you rearranged the tank, you broke up their territories, and they tried to establish new ones, and now they can't agree on borders. I did the same thing with a pair of julies and a brichardi - moved some rocks around, and the brichardi went nuts. I've heard of using the same means to erase territories to stop aggression, but when everything's going good, I guess it can have the opposite effect.

my RTS plays chace with the bala shark, but is never agressive, with anyone. given a 50ukg tank and not too heavy stocking, RTS even lives happyly with a Green Terror :crazy:

They should do pretty good with the likes of green terrors, I'd think. Chinese algae eaters do well with aggressive cichlids, and they're also generally maligned for the ticking time bombs they tend to be in a community tank. Cichlids like GTs can take a beating and will give one back, so a problem fish will learn its place or be taught its place. Chasing is also harmless, which is why I asked about tankmates - if it's just chasing, it might not be a big deal, and if it's occasional scuffles with a robust tough-guy fish, I also wouldn't worry unless it was causing stress or injury. If there's slow or delicate fish like angels or gouramis around, that's a different matter, and once a fish turns bully with that kind of tankmate, I usually don't trust them to stay together anymore.

Not sure how it would work with a shark, but just for the sake of relevant discussion, I've found that having a fish around big enough to pose a credible threat can keep some problem fish in line, too. I have a killifish who used to be the dominant fish in the tank, and would randomly start hounding a single fish for hours for no apparent reason, once continuing for several days until the victim died. When I introduced my male keyhole, he became very peaceful. The keyhole doesn't bother him (I've seen it back down from a fight with a snail - for cichlids, keyholes are pansies) , but the killi won't assert himself when there's a bigger fish around. When all the bigger fish are out of sight, it's open season on danios, but it doesn't last as long as it used to before a gourami or cichlid wanders into view.
 

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