Plecs

[Minstrel]

I plan to ad plecs to my tank and would like to as soon as possible but I have been told until I hav e algae then there is no point adding them, I would also like a small school of corys. When would it be suitable to add them? How long does Algae take to grow?

 

[Liquid skills]

well tbh i slightly disagree wit hwaiting because you can suppliment their diet with algae wafer veg blood worm you know the normal stuff they wont go hungery i added mine when there was no algae and just fed them veg bloodworm and wafers no problem but other people have different opinions and thats mine

i dont know much about cory's so cant help u there

 

[Noahs ark6]

Algae growth varies depending on where the tank is located and the light being used on the tank. For example, if the tank was near a window, algae growth will be considerably more than if away from a window. It takes a couple of weeks for algae to be in abundance in my tank

 

[Tizer]

your algae questions are not really relevant as you have to feed all your fish, including plecs and corys with a suitable diet. So more to the point, what size is your tank, what type of plec and cory do you like and what temperature do you keep your water at?

 

[Minstrel]

your algae questions are not really relevant as you have to feed all your fish, including plecs and corys with a suitable diet. So more to the point, what size is your tank, what type of plec and cory do you like and what temperature do you keep your water at?

I plan on a bristlenose and possibly a golden nugget still not sure of that, my tank is 200L so has plenty of space for these two plecs, the corys I like are panda, peppered and three line corys, I know they are schooling fish but I was wondering anyway if I could have for example 3 panda and 3 peppered and they would school together? I know I would still have to feed them but it was the man at the fish shop that told me that I would need to wait 3 months for algae? My tank is kept at 26 degrees. My main worry is PH it seems to be around 6.5 and I would rather it was 7 but I don't want to faff around too much with it?

 

[N0body Of The Goat]

your algae questions are not really relevant as you have to feed all your fish, including plecs and corys with a suitable diet. So more to the point, what size is your tank, what type of plec and cory do you like and what temperature do you keep your water at?

I plan on a bristlenose and possibly a golden nugget still not sure of that, my tank is 200L so has plenty of space for these two plecs, the corys I like are panda, peppered and three line corys, I know they are schooling fish but I was wondering anyway if I could have for example 3 panda and 3 peppered and they would school together? I know I would still have to feed them but it was the man at the fish shop that told me that I would need to wait 3 months for algae? My tank is kept at 26 degrees. My main worry is PH it seems to be around 6.5 and I would rather it was 7 but I don't want to faff around too much with it?

While a Golden Nugget would love 26C in a very strong current (albeit these catfish often arrive weak and can be troublesome to get feeding), water that warm with that current would not be suitable for Panda or Peppered Corydoras, who do far better at ~20C with a weak-moderate current. BN plecs love current and can be kept at as low a temp as 21C.

 

[Minstrel]

your algae questions are not really relevant as you have to feed all your fish, including plecs and corys with a suitable diet. So more to the point, what size is your tank, what type of plec and cory do you like and what temperature do you keep your water at?

I plan on a bristlenose and possibly a golden nugget still not sure of that, my tank is 200L so has plenty of space for these two plecs, the corys I like are panda, peppered and three line corys, I know they are schooling fish but I was wondering anyway if I could have for example 3 panda and 3 peppered and they would school together? I know I would still have to feed them but it was the man at the fish shop that told me that I would need to wait 3 months for algae? My tank is kept at 26 degrees. My main worry is PH it seems to be around 6.5 and I would rather it was 7 but I don't want to faff around too much with it?

While a Golden Nugget would love 26C in a very strong current (albeit these catfish often arrive weak and can be troublesome to get feeding), water that warm with that current would not be suitable for Panda or Peppered Corydoras, who do far better at ~20C with a weak-moderate current. BN plecs love current and can be kept at as low a temp as 21C.

I am afraid as per the other fish in my tank I would not like to drop it lower then 24degrees. The books and internet information on all these corys and plecs say that they will be okay in 26 degrees?

 

[N0body Of The Goat]

What other fish are already in the tank that you feel 24C is the minimum temperature you can drop to?

Creating community tanks responsibly requires us as aquarists to ensure that all fish planned to go in a tank will do well with each other in the short (similar temp requirements; similar aggression levels, suitable sized groups for social species etc.) and long term (no fish is slowly starving to death because of being outcompeted for food, being kept at an extreme end of the temp needs that either shuts down their immune system or sends them into hydrive and a consequent shortened lifespan etc.)

Peppered Corydoras http/www.planetcatfish.com/catelog/_species.php?species_id=271 "15.0-25.0°C", "Suits a tank with community fish that enjoy a slightly cooler tropical tank. Not a fish for the discus tank, although hardy enough to stand high temperature for a while, it doesn't help the longevity of the fish."

Panda Corydoras http/www.planetcatfish.com/catelog/_species.php?species_id=267 "22.0-25.0°C"

A lot of common hobby fish are content at middle of the road tropical temperatures and current, but some fish need specialist conditions such as turbulent warm water like Golden Nugget Plecos or cool still water like Weather Loaches, in which case tankmates need to be able to cope with the specialist fish's needs. If you want some Corydoras and your tank needs to be 24 or even 26C, there are other more suitable species available, for instance C. sterbai would be fine in both instances (but there are lots of other choices if you searched PlanetCatfish).

 

[Minstrel]

NObody Of The Goat this is the fish I currently have and the temperatures that they are recommended to be kept at as per my book

Angelfish: 24-28 degrees
Mollys: 23 - 28 degrees
Upside down catfish: 22-26 degrees (he would be alright closer to their temperatures
Paradise fish: 16-26 degrees

 

[N0body Of The Goat]

NObody Of The Goat this is the fish I currently have and the temperatures that they are recommended to be kept at as per my book

Angelfish: 24-28 degrees
Mollys: 23 - 28 degrees
Upside down catfish: 22-26 degrees (he would be alright closer to their temperatures
Paradise fish: 16-26 degrees

In which case, adding a fish that needs turbulent water (like a Golden Nugget) to this tank is really out of the question. In terms of water movement, that stocking is a good combination of fish, they all like something pretty calm. However, I would personally be concerned with...

• Paradise Fish being a temperate species, that would do better in an heaterless tank, that naturally changed temperature with the seasons.
• Angelfish needing at least 18" (45cm) of actual water depth to prevent stunting, where they lose their classic triangular shape.
• True Upside Down Catfish (Synodontis nigriventris) are very social African catfish, just like Corydoras, who do better in larger groups (I have nine in a 48x12x15 with other young Synodontis and some Ilyodon xantusi). Sometimes, the far more spiteful Synodontis nigrita or euptera are mislabelled in fish stores.

 

[Minstrel]

NObody Of The Goat this is the fish I currently have and the temperatures that they are recommended to be kept at as per my book

Angelfish: 24-28 degrees
Mollys: 23 - 28 degrees
Upside down catfish: 22-26 degrees (he would be alright closer to their temperatures
Paradise fish: 16-26 degrees

In which case, adding a fish that needs turbulent water (like a Golden Nugget) to this tank is really out of the question. In terms of water movement, that stocking is a good combination of fish, they all like something pretty calm. However, I would personally be concerned with...

• Paradise Fish being a temperate species, that would do better in an heaterless tank, that naturally changed temperature with the seasons.
• Angelfish needing at least 18" (45cm) of actual water depth to prevent stunting, where they lose their classic triangular shape.
• True Upside Down Catfish (Synodontis nigriventris) are very social African catfish, just like Corydoras, who do better in larger groups (I have nine in a 48x12x15 with other young Synodontis and some Ilyodon xantusi). Sometimes, the far more spiteful Synodontis nigrita or euptera are mislabelled in fish stores.

So many different opinions are on the internet and in books.

My angels though do have that depth.

 

[Tizer]

NObody Of The Goat this is the fish I currently have and the temperatures that they are recommended to be kept at as per my book

Angelfish: 24-28 degrees
Mollys: 23 - 28 degrees
Upside down catfish: 22-26 degrees (he would be alright closer to their temperatures
Paradise fish: 16-26 degrees

In which case, adding a fish that needs turbulent water (like a Golden Nugget) to this tank is really out of the question. In terms of water movement, that stocking is a good combination of fish, they all like something pretty calm. However, I would personally be concerned with...

• Paradise Fish being a temperate species, that would do better in an heaterless tank, that naturally changed temperature with the seasons.
• Angelfish needing at least 18" (45cm) of actual water depth to prevent stunting, where they lose their classic triangular shape.
• True Upside Down Catfish (Synodontis nigriventris) are very social African catfish, just like Corydoras, who do better in larger groups (I have nine in a 48x12x15 with other young Synodontis and some Ilyodon xantusi). Sometimes, the far more spiteful Synodontis nigrita or euptera are mislabelled in fish stores.

So many different opinions are on the internet and in books.

My angels though do have that depth.

This is generally one of the better places to take advice though, because if someone writes something thats wrong, there is always an army of people who like to jump in and correct them.

 

[Minstrel]

NObody Of The Goat this is the fish I currently have and the temperatures that they are recommended to be kept at as per my book

Angelfish: 24-28 degrees
Mollys: 23 - 28 degrees
Upside down catfish: 22-26 degrees (he would be alright closer to their temperatures
Paradise fish: 16-26 degrees

In which case, adding a fish that needs turbulent water (like a Golden Nugget) to this tank is really out of the question. In terms of water movement, that stocking is a good combination of fish, they all like something pretty calm. However, I would personally be concerned with...

• Paradise Fish being a temperate species, that would do better in an heaterless tank, that naturally changed temperature with the seasons.
• Angelfish needing at least 18" (45cm) of actual water depth to prevent stunting, where they lose their classic triangular shape.
• True Upside Down Catfish (Synodontis nigriventris) are very social African catfish, just like Corydoras, who do better in larger groups (I have nine in a 48x12x15 with other young Synodontis and some Ilyodon xantusi). Sometimes, the far more spiteful Synodontis nigrita or euptera are mislabelled in fish stores.

So many different opinions are on the internet and in books.

My angels though do have that depth.

This is generally one of the better places to take advice though, because if someone writes something thats wrong, there is always an army of people who like to jump in and correct them.

Yes but with all due respect I am sure there will be times where two opinions can be as valid as each other, I am sure also that the way a fish has been kept from breeder to you buying it in the shop will influence what it likes?
I find it all rather interesting