Please Stock My Tank For Me!

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The tank is almost prepared for fish and my head hurts from looking at different fish and wondering if one goes with another and what level in the tank they like to stay at...

I'm really looking for fish that will cover all three regions of the tank: bottom, middle and top!! It is going to be a community tank so I would like a bit of variety such as colour, size and species of fish.

I like Guppies (cute little critters!!) and invertebrates (blue lobster, shrimp) but due to my limited knowledge thats all I have really settled on. Can you suggest any other fish that will go with this lot?

Instead of just suggesting one fish per post could ya put up a short list? because if one person suggests one fish only the next list may not be compatable with that fish and seriously confuse me!! :)

Its alot to ask but I'd really appreciate it! :)
 
The tank is almost prepared for fish and my head hurts from looking at different fish and wondering if one goes with another and what level in the tank they like to stay at...

I'm really looking for fish that will cover all three regions of the tank: bottom, middle and top!! It is going to be a community tank so I would like a bit of variety such as colour, size and species of fish.

I like Guppies (cute little critters!!) and invertebrates (blue lobster, shrimp) but due to my limited knowledge thats all I have really settled on. Can you suggest any other fish that will go with this lot?

Instead of just suggesting one fish per post could ya put up a short list? because if one person suggests one fish only the next list may not be compatable with that fish and seriously confuse me!! :)

Its alot to ask but I'd really appreciate it! :)


I would go for lots of cories for at the bottom and some black widow tetras for the middle and loads of guppies. Oh, I already have lol :rolleyes:
 
I have small gravel as substrate, an internal and external TetraTec EX700 filter, two internal heaters etc...

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Its 180L so its universal :)

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FYI, I suspect people are joking about putting angels with neons. In case they are serious, or you interpret them as serious - please note that fully grown angels are known to eat neons.
 
I have to disagree I have kept a breeding pair of angels with larger cardinals without problems.

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You're looking at 48 US gallons. I'm listing fish that can all be kept together (with a few exceptions where there is agression within the species, usually two males kept together or with similar looking fish). Your tank is nowhere near big enough to keep all of these fish together, but you'll have some options to choose from. I'd take one or two smaller species from the mid to top dwellers list with either gouramis, female bettas or larger livebearers, a group of either loaches or corydoras and possibly a small pleco for the bottom.

The only invertebrates I'd suggest keeping with community fish are algae shrimp, petshrimp.com has some great info on different species. Avoid clawed shrimp (these will eat small and even not so small fish) and filter feeders (difficult to feed). Crabs and crayfish usually munch down on fish as well. If you go for algae shrimp, keep them only with small fish like small tetras, livebearers and maybe some cories. Gouramis and other larger fish may see them as a very expensive snack. I'll note on my list which fish are not likely shrimp safe.

Mid to top dwellers:

Many gouramis make wonderful colorful community fish, I'd avoid the dwarf gourami as they tend to be carriers of disease. Keep only one species, either a single male or a male with at least two females. As mentioned, some of these are likely to munch on algae shrimp though you may be safe with honey gouramis or similar sized species.

Female bettas are very colorful and interesting, but they can be agressive towards each other so I'd keep at least five females together to spread out the agression. They tend to ignore any other non-betta fish, just avoid male bettas as these have lots of compatibility issues. Generally speaking not algae shrimp safe.

Platies, swordtails and guppies are all livebearers that would be suitable for your tank, avoid mollies as they prefer brackish. Keep a ratio of at least two females to every male.

Tetras come in all sizes, but there are a great many small ones that do great in community tanks. Black skirts, neons, cardinals, rummynose, glowlights, lemons and lots of other similar species are commonly found. Just make sure that the one you pick stays small and don't get an exodon, those things are vicious. Most tetras commonly sold are perfect for community tanks so you shouldn't have too much trouble, keep them in groups of at least 5 as they are schooling fish.

Rasboras and danios are in the same boat as tetras, most of these are great little schooling fish and they're very easy to find. Again, groups of five or more.

Bottom dwellers:

Corydoras have already been mentioned, there are all sorts of options and they get along with just about everything. Keep them in a group of at least five as they're very social and provide them with lots of hiding spaces (looks like you already have). Corys prefer a sand substrate as do most bottom dwellers, but they'll do alright in gravel.

Loaches are my all time favorite fish, so I'm a bit biased towards them. Most of them are very shy and need to be kept in group of at least three (the more the merrier) with plenty of hiding spaces. They're very active and love to play in current, though bottom feeders they do swim around in the middle of the tank and will jump out if the tank isn't covered. You could go with a group of smaller botias like the zebra, zipper or dwarf chain loach. A couple of others to keep an eye out for are the hillstream or butterfly loaches, they're a sucking loach that requires lots of aeration, and kuhli loaches, a small eel like loach that requires lots of friends a sandy substrate since it digs. Several species, including the commonly sold clown loach, get huge so watch out for maximum size if you go with loaches. Botias especially love to eat snails so I wouldn't consider them at all shrimp safe unless you have something very small like kuhlis.

Plecos are another favorite of mine, unfortunately the most commonly sold species are the commons and sailfins which get huge. There are all sorts that come in many different colorations and sizes, many of which won't touch algae. If you're after a pleco just to clean up algae in your tank, get a scrubbing sponge instead. The trick to getting a pleco is being able to get a positive ID on the fish, preferably with an L number. Planet Catfish has a fabulous index of species. Most plecos get along well with just about everything, it's just a matter of size.
 
hmm well u said you want a blue lobster.......... Bad idea with fish, they will (sooner or later) be eaten by the lobster... Also, I'm seeing the debate going on about angles being kept with neons... They will eat neons once they are full grown, Cardinal tetras are not neon tetras, so don't get them confused. they look similar but they are different...


Hmmm... I'd say mabye some hatchet fish for the top level, a shoal of 15 neons and like 10 black/white skirt tetras, and then some cory cats or some kind of small cat fish shoal for the bottom... aswell as some kind of algea cleaning fish(in the future not right away) such as oto cats.
 
Wow...the information you have all given is great, and thanks for those links Tessla!! I'm learning alot from you over the weeks!! :)
 
I have angels and neons andthey live together ok. i have most of the fish mentioned above in my community tank. Corys are gorgeous little fish and will roll their eyes at you. I am an avid fan of clown loaches...have 10 ranging in all sizes. They are sensitive creatures and get easily stressed. i have swordtails, guppies, danios, silver dollars, clowns, bettas, neon and cardinal tetras, keyhole tetra, tiger barb, corys, plec, angels etc etc. Good luck.
 
I'd recommend against clown loaches, they are great fish but they get huge (LFS near me has several that are well over a foot long) need to be kept in a group and require at least 75 gallons (bare minimum, I would keep them in much more) structured around their needs if you plan to keep them long term. There are plenty of much smaller botia species that are just as much fun as clowns and make great community fish.

Angelfish eat neons in the wild, you may be able to keep smaller angelfish with neons for a while but the angelfish will eventually get big enough (so long as they don't get stunted...) and munch on the neons. Nobody is advising against keeping them together because of a few isolated incidents, it's a common occurence both in tanks and in the wild.
 
I have kept clowns for years and know how to look after them. I wasn't advising someone to keep them as in any fish you must look up how to care for them, before buying them. I am just an avid fan and have a range of sizes.
 

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