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please tell me this si not what i think it is....

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i dont even have a spare tank to move him to :( the spare tank has got some gold barbs in at the moment....ive only last week lost my betta to dropsy, but he was in a different tank!! please advise one what i should do...only today have i noticed his scales all up, i did think he was abit bloated so feeding of peas has been going down alot at the moment, ive noticed his swimming is abit of, i have not done any test ont he water yet, do i?? should i?? thanks in advance guys!! oh and all other fish are fine with no symptoms or any odd behaviour
 
Definately test the water and post the stats so that someone more experienced can help you more.
His tail looks pretty ragged too has he been getting picked on or has he had finrot?
 
hi, yes when i first got him he was in a right state, had finrot aswell, also the oast few days he was being nipped by some gold barbs to, there now in the "special" tank lol im abit unsure how to rehome them as nobody wants them! will test the water now and get the stats up
 
Poor thing he is abit of a mess.

Bacterial med. Can you issolate him.
What does it look like when he goes to the toilet.
Is his anus enlarged or red and inflamed.
 
hi! heres the stats,

0 ammonia
0 nitrite
20 Nitrates, ( just done a water change after testing so may be about 10 now? i dont know)

so i have meds, but i dont have a spare tank!! im at a lose...should i treats the main tank??

he seems to poo fine, his anus does not look inflamed however ive noticed his swimming is very wobbly....help :(
 
Feed him some peas.

If in the uk anti internal bacteteria med by interpet.

How many livebearers do you have as I would worm them.

http://www.thegreenmachineaquatics.com/mall/productpage.cfm/Aquatics/_nematol%20001/198936
 
im in the uk and have the med, should i dose the tank with the others in?

there is...

1x male ballon molly
1x female ballon molly
1x male guppy
2 x albino cory things (sorry i dont know there name)
1x kuli loach type thing (hes about 3 and a half inch and always hiding)
1x dwarf plec guy

so is it defo safe to dose the tank? its a 60 Litre tank
 
Yes if you mean the anti internal bacteria med by interpet.

Bloating and swimming wobbly can be swim bladder.
Finrot can also be a secondary infection.

Causes of swim bladder are.
Bad water quality, unstable temp, to many dried foods, internal parasites, bacterial infection of the swim bladder, injury, birth defect.

Sorry I forgot his scales are sticking out.

Dropsy



Symptoms:

This disease is very common among African Cichlids, and is commonly called "Malawi Bloat," even though it affects fish from Lakes Tanganyika and Victoria. Dropsy is also very common within the Carp family and among Anabantids. It is characterized by swelling of the body and especially abdomen, which causes the scales to stand out with a pine cone appearance. Eyes may protrude or cave in. Reddening at the vent and/or base of fins may be observable as well as body ulcers and long pale feces. In advanced cases, skin discoloration and scale loss may also occur. Sick fish will not show any desire for food. They will often hang near the bottom, resting on the gravel, or at the top, gasping for air. In the latter stages of this disease, the fish may lose its equilibrium and hence ability to swim properly.



Cause:

Three main causes for Dropsy have been identified. The over use of salt (NaCl), prolonged exposure to poor water conditions, and improper diet, which lead to a parasitic infection. Other causes include poisoning, internal injuries and cancerous tumors. The swelling is not the disease itself, but rather a symptom, which is caused by a build-up of fluids in the body cavity due to internal organ failure.



Treatment:

Treatment of this disease is difficult, as by the time it is recognized, permanent damage to the internal organs of the fish will have occurred. Immediate treatment must be performed if there is to be any chance for survival. Metronidazole (Flagyl) and or Clout are the best medications for treatment of Dropsy. Notwithstanding, not much is known for certain about the etiology of this disease and some experienced aquarists use antibiotics to fight Dropsy. For oxytetracycline, baths of 20-100 mg/litre for five days is suggested. For tetracycline hydrochloride, treat with baths of 40-100 mg/litre for five days. And for minocycline hydrochloride a dilution of 250mg/10 gallons of water is recommended. On day 2 change all the water and add the medicine again at the same dose for another 2 days. Increase aeration during treatment. Do not use minocycline a third time in a row. Caution: tetracyclines are photo sensitive so turn the tank lights off during treatment and cover the whole tank with a blanket. If the fish is still eating, you can soak the food in a concentrated solution of the antibiotic before feeding.
 
so i may loose him...:( im treating the water now lets hope he doesnt die!
 
Once scales stick out it the last stage of dropsy. Fish rarely make it once scales stick out.
It's best to issolate fish with dropsy as if they die and the fish peck at the body, it can
pass onto other fish.
 
BTW, You should have 2or3 females for every male with mollys, just the male can keep on chasing the female, and the female can get very stressed.
 
BTW, You should have 2or3 females for every male with mollys, just the male can keep on chasing the female, and the female can get very stressed.


ive heard, im intent on getting more mollys, but over time, also she chase's him!!! he doesnt really bother her :huh:
 
Its no Biggie just they might be happier.

But you seem to know all this already :rolleyes:
 
of course :) but....i have some bad news :(

late last night about 12 i noticed something....mr guppy was sat under the filter breathing heavy :( i reconized this instantly....i knew he didnt have long left as this is what cloud did before he past, anyway this morning when i got back from the dentist the worse had happened :( he had past as i was at the dentist!! he was still breathing real heavy in at about 7 in the morning :(

RIP Mr guppy :( :(

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he will be missed in the main tank :(
 
Bless Him.
R.I.P.
 

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