One Beby Pleco Dead - The Other? Who Knows?

[JenCliBee]

Well, I guess we just have 2 viewpoints here - yours and a site specialising in bristlenose plecs. No wonder people get confused.

Your quite right there, people do get confused and what doesnt help are when sites which are suposed to specialise in a specific fish are wrong or wrong to a certen degree.... where do you drawn the line.

Sorry but i really dont care what you or that sites says, BN's DO NOT need wood for there diet, as i and indigoj have quite correctly mentioned the reasons why wood is always a better option to add than not.

Like I said there are 2 viewpoints and was happy to leave it at that, but you clearly needed to insist you were right.

So, I throw down a challenge. Find me a site that says they do not need wood in their diet? I've just looked through 8 pages of google results and could find no site that says that they don't need wood, but I did find the sites below that say they DO need wood in their diet. And when I say find me a site - I mean an article on a site not a forum message.

http/www.e-aquarium.com.au/bristlenose_catfish.htm

http/www.aqua-fish.net/show.php?h=bristlenosecatfish

http/badmanstropicalfish.com/profiles/profile117.html

http/en.allexperts.com/q/Freshwater-Aquarium-3216/2008/4/feeding-bristlenose-catfish-mixed.htm

Mind you even if you do find even one article, I still hold with what I said - clearly there are 2 views, and I'll leave it at that.

Firstly, i don't need to find a article telling you they don't need wood, infact you find me an article with scientific background and research into needing wood. I could go and find 30-40 sites which state they need wood, doesn't mean there correct.

I'm still unsure what your trying to confirm?, do they EAT wood or do they NOT eat wood. Basically they don't eat wood, as stated they eat the things that collect on wood.. ie aufwuchs, or bacteria or tiny organisms that may well help with digestion. However what i said was they don't need wood becasue they purely don't eat it. Ive given the reasons above as did indigoj on what they use the wood for, as far as i can see all them sites state they rasp on wood to aid digestion, yes?... well rasping on wood and eating wood to aid digestion are two completely different things.

As indigoj has mentioned the aufwuchs doesn't just collect on wood but plants and probably whole lot of different surfaces which renders the need for bogwood in a BN tank abit dormant.

Basically they don't eat wood but they do get nutrients from it which again i stated above and never questioned you.

I apologise for a part of my last message, it was rude of me to state i couldn't care what you think.... but trying to get correct info across or at least semi correct info regarding they don't eat wood and it's not needed, is hard when you have somebody just believing and quoting pages from the internet which aren't scientific based.

I cant give you a scientific reason, i can give you experience from years of keeping and many years of other people keeping these and many other species of plec, hopefully the likes of maybe jonathan dangerous(sp), scatz or even darkstar may come along and give a better scientific reasoning behind them not needing it.

 

[stoneagedinosaur]

Little pleco was about 2 inches long. I don't have a month or so to condition some bogwood before number 2 dies! Any quick suggestions?

FishyJake13 what would you supplement the diet with until (and after) I get some wood? (I was planning to get some anyway...)

Nitrite and Ammonia spikes have reduced significantly from setup.

Thanks GrubbyGirl for the link - some good stuff on there...

Nice to see that I have sparked some controversy!

 

[GrubbyGirl]

Can you point out the exact sentence in any of MY posts where I said they actually eat wood?

 

[WILDER]

We all make mistakes.
That's the trouble with the net some sites are not accurate.
I know some plecs do eat wood and that's about all I know.

Lets not fall out over it. You live and learn.

 

[JenCliBee]

Can you point out the exact sentence in any of MY posts where I said they actually eat wood?

Trying to be clever isn't a good quality... apart of my last message.

I'm still unsure what your trying to confirm?, do they EAT wood or do they NOT eat wood.

That states i never did say you said they ate wood did i, otherwise i wouldn't have asked.

Secondly you stated they needed wood within the tank, yes?, i dismissed that and said they didn't. Infact if you want to go further into it, all plants contain this lignin as far as im aware, so i could just substitute a plant instead of wood to rasp on?. I also thought lignin helped to actually digest and breakdown the wood itself, not to add any benefit to the actual fish eating it?.. i may be wrong there but im sure ive read that somewhere.

Either Way, what i stated and you questioned it was BN's don't need bogwood in there tank, which infact you've confirmed im correct when stating above you never said they ate it. Well infact if they don't eat it and can get what you claim they need from something else they purely on that basis wood is not needed?.

Had enough of arguing with you, well debating.... Just remember i never once stated they don't benefit from wood only that they don't eat it and you jumped all over me.

If i had stated don't put it in, it's pointless and does nothing i would except you challenging that but i didn't and never have.

I think the OP has had enough info on BN's so i think that's it from me lol

 

[GrubbyGirl]

Trying to be a bully isn't clever either

 

[JenCliBee]

Trying to be a bully isn't clever either

???, now you've completely lost me lol... bully where?, merely tried to explain the basis behind why i said wood is not needed, i wasn't malicious nor personal. Infact i even apologised for the one part i was a little abrupt. Now im a bully??