Ok... I Have A Particularly Nasty Fungus Raging Through 2 Of My Tanks.

[Sp00ky]

And when i say nasty i mean nasty. I came home last night to see that my male neon blue guppy had started with it. I treated ALL my tanks last night with Interpet No8 Anti Fungus & Finrot. Now this is how nasty it is, i went out for a few hours came home, and it had taken his entire tail ! Suffice to saw he is no longer with us.

Now the onslaught seems to have slowed down a little but i cant see anywhere on the box or tub of Anti Fungus & Finrot on how often your supposed to dose the tank. Anyone any ideas?

i have also dropped the temp in my main 5ft tank to 25/26 degrees and added salt and some Mellafix. I assume doing a water change is pointless cause that just negates the meds i have applied to the tank.

I have also just lost 2 of my shrimp as well in the last 20 mins.

Anyone got any other suggestions as to what i can do?

Cheers

Sp00ks

P.S the nursery tank is safe, so i have plenty to restock, but i would rather fight this thing and save the fish that are still with me.

 

[WILDER]

Sounds like columnaris if you are losing fish like that, where is the fungus on the fish and is it fluffy looking, what fish do you have in the tank, that long since i used anti finrot and fungus med is it one dose for a week, you might need to add anti internal bacteria med at half dose as well if you have a bad strain in there.

 

[Sp00ky]

Sounds like columnaris if you are losing fish like that, where is the fungus on the fish and is it fluffy looking, what fish do you have in the tank, that long since i used anti finrot and fungus med is it one dose for a week, you might need to add anti internal bacteria med at half dose as well if you have a bad strain in there.

the symptoms vary. When my neons have had it it looks like a white strip about half inch wide running from top to bottom of the fish and through the colourings. Its a white strip as well and only on one side of the fish.

My female silver sailfin molly that currently has it only has it on her right hand side fin. The fin has rotted, but i think i have managed to halt the onslaught on her by giving her a salt and Melafix bath. She also looks like the fin has been bleeding where the fin joins her body.

erm, one of my female guppies lost the middle section of her tail fin ( which made her look like a lyre tail) and also had mouth fungus.

My male betta that i lost looked like he had been in a fight.... ya know, like when the fins looked ravaged.

One of my red wag platys has it on one side of the body as well much like the silver sailfin.

as for fish, i have

Neons
Black Tetras
Lemon Tetras
Guppies
Mollies
Platys
Swordtails
pleco
corys
khulis
red crabs
a shrimp ( lost the 2 females today the male seems 100% fine though!)
endler male

 

[WILDER]

Sounds like saddleback columnaris, plus with the neons they can get false ntd which it columnaris or ntd which is neon tetra desease, have they lost colour in the red stripe.
Plus you have alot of fish, how many gallons is the tank, plus how many fish and which type, can you post water stats in ammonia,nitrite,nitrate,and ph.

Not the writer of this information below.
Columnaris (a.k.a. Mouth Fungus)



Symptoms:

An infected fish will have off-white to gray cotton-like patches on the head, fins, gills, body and particularly the mouth. In time, these areas will develop into open sores. Gill swelling may occur, gill filaments may stick together and excessive mucus may develop in the gill area. Rapid breathing can be seen. Fins may deteriorate to the point of leaving the fin rays bare. Muscles may be inflamed and capillaries may rupture. Fish, particularly livebearers, may exhibit "shimmying". Infection may be acute (killing an infected fish within hours), or chronic (lingering for several days before eventually killing the fish). As with most diseases, not all symptoms need be present.



Cause:

The bacterium Flexibacter columnaris.



Treatment:

Ensure that your water conditions (e.g., Ammonia, Nitrite, pH, Nitrate levels, and water temp.) are within their proper ranges. If not, perform a water change and/or treat the water accordingly. Recommended medications include: Furanace, Fungus Eliminator, Fungus Cure, Furacyn, Furan-2, Triple Sulfa, E.M. Tablets, Tetracycline, or Potassium Permanganate. Medicated foods are also recommended. Columnaris can be highly infectious and may quickly kill all aquarium inhabitants; therefore, early treatment is essential. All fish, including those not yet showing visible symptoms, as well as the aquarium they inhabit should be treated.




http/freshaquarium.about.com/cs/disease/p/neondisease.htm

 

[Sp00ky]

Sounds like saddleback columnaris, plus with the neons they can get false ntd which it columnaris or ntd which is neon tetra desease, have they lost colour in the red stripe.
Plus you have alot of fish, how many gallons is the tank, plus how many fish and which type, can you post water stats in ammonia,nitrite,nitrate,and ph.

70G
Stats
ph 7.6
NO2 0PPM
NH3NH4 0PPM
NO3 40

 

[WILDER]

That fine just saw a long list of fish, it's the neons that are worrying me as it could be columnaris and you have it with the other fish, just wan't to make sure it isn't ntd.

Not the writer of this information below.
Pleistophora (a.k.a. Neon Tetra Disease)



Symptoms:

Pleistophora is also called Neon Tetra Disease because of its high prevalence among Neon Tetras, although it has also been reported to infect most Characins, Cichlids, Cyprinids (i.e., danios), and all the carp-like fishes. It is characterized by a loss of coloration and pale, white patches of skin, particularly the strip of skin beneath the dorsal fin. Other symptoms may include spinal curvature, emaciation, fin deterioration and erratic swimming behavior.



Cause:

The microsporidian parasite Pleistophora hyphessobryconis. Pleistophora live in the muscle tissue of infected fish and cause degeneration and wasting of the muscle. The parasites travel through the fish?s blood, quickly spreading to all areas of the body. Pleistophora not only affect the fish?s muscles but all its internal organs.



Treatment:

There is no effective cure for this illness, partly due to the fact that by the time diagnosis is confirmed the fish is too weak to be saved. If more than one fish in your aquarium succumbs to this parasite, the entire aquarium should be emptied and dissinfected. Some aquarists suggest the use of a diatom filter to trap the spores of the parasite and thus clear them from the tank.

Pleistophora can easily be mistaken for False Neon Disease, which is a bacterial infection and presents with the exact same symptoms. For this reason, it would be wise to remove the infected fish to a hospital tank (while disinfecting the main tank) and treat them with a broad spectrum antibiotic.

 

[Sp00ky]

That fine just saw a long list of fish, it's the neons that are worrying me as it could be columnaris and you have it with the other fish, just wan't to make sure it isn't ntd.

Not the writer of this information below.
Pleistophora (a.k.a. Neon Tetra Disease)



Symptoms:

Pleistophora is also called Neon Tetra Disease because of its high prevalence among Neon Tetras, although it has also been reported to infect most Characins, Cichlids, Cyprinids (i.e., danios), and all the carp-like fishes. It is characterized by a loss of coloration and pale, white patches of skin, particularly the strip of skin beneath the dorsal fin. Other symptoms may include spinal curvature, emaciation, fin deterioration and erratic swimming behavior.



Cause:

The microsporidian parasite Pleistophora hyphessobryconis. Pleistophora live in the muscle tissue of infected fish and cause degeneration and wasting of the muscle. The parasites travel through the fish?s blood, quickly spreading to all areas of the body. Pleistophora not only affect the fish?s muscles but all its internal organs.



Treatment:

There is no effective cure for this illness, partly due to the fact that by the time diagnosis is confirmed the fish is too weak to be saved. If more than one fish in your aquarium succumbs to this parasite, the entire aquarium should be emptied and dissinfected. Some aquarists suggest the use of a diatom filter to trap the spores of the parasite and thus clear them from the tank.

Pleistophora can easily be mistaken for False Neon Disease, which is a bacterial infection and presents with the exact same symptoms. For this reason, it would be wise to remove the infected fish to a hospital tank (while disinfecting the main tank) and treat them with a broad spectrum antibiotic.

i have lost 1 black tet and 2 neons... but all the rest have been gups or platys

 

[WILDER]

Watch out for ntd just to be on the safe side if you do suspect it isolate the sick fish immediately, good luck.

 

[Sp00ky]

Watch out for ntd just to be on the safe side if you do suspect it isolate the sick fish immediately, good luck.

will do. thanks for the info mate

 

[Sp00ky]

Well i woke up this morning for the first time in the past 5 days and theres not been a death in my tank !! i think ( touch wood) that i have it under control now !!

 

[WILDER]

Good news, good luck.

 

[Sp00ky]

Good news, good luck.

cheers dude. I'm thinking of vacing it out tomorrow night and doing a 50% water change. I've been treating with Melafix for the past 3 days. what do you reckon?? the water is looking a little cloudy at the moment so i was thinking of doing it when i finished work

 

[WILDER]

Sounds fine to me.