Ntd With Cardinals?

[Alps]

I bought 5 cardinals and 3 died, 2 by the 2nd day and one over a week and a half later.

-1st died from a discoloration exactly like this
-the 2nd I believe died from stress, no markings or anything (thought he was the healthiest)
-3rd died from same as 1st

as far as I saw, they were not even kept in the same tank as any neon tetras

the discolored ones developed signs very quickly and died within 12 hours. They always separated from the others as soon as the discoloration appeared and they were taken out right away.

open to comments

 

[Alps]

anyone? Is this even possible?

 

[The-Wolf]

Cardinal tetras are immune to NTD, they can be carriers but not be infected themsleves.
If you think a cardinal has NTD then it most likely has false NTD aka Columnaris

 

[morgan]

Hi, when you buy Cardinal Tetras if they survive the first 3 weeks they should be ok. They are very vulnerable in the first 3 weeks. I read this after my husband bought me 10 Cardinals for Xmas (a surprise, he didn't ask). I was very surprised (and pleased) that they all survived. Perhaps they are sensitive to being moved? Or to being in different water? I don't know if yours had a disease or not but they are definitely sensitive when you first get them. Also their lifespan is short and they might be a good way through it when you buy them.

 

[Alps]

yah The-Wolf, it looked exactly like the picture, but what should I have done for columnaris? (treatment)

yah the surviving ones are doing well, I will have a school in my 20g after I have it well planted and settled for over 6 months. I definitely made a mistake in buying them now

 

[The-Wolf]

columnaris is a bacterial probelm and should be treated with a stong anti-bacterial med. It is IME very hard to cure with most anti-bacterials.
I would recomend acriflavin (NT labs) as the best, although I have had limited effect with myxazin (watrlife products).

as with all med treatments, remove carbon and zeolite from filters and turn off any UV steralisers (if you have any of these).

at least you now know what to do next time
forwarned is forarmed, as they say.

 

[Alps]

columnaris is a bacterial probelm and should be treated with a stong anti-bacterial med. It is IME very hard to cure with most anti-bacterials.
I would recomend acriflavin (NT labs) as the best, although I have had limited effect with myxazin (watrlife products).

as with all med treatments, remove carbon and zeolite from filters and turn off any UV steralisers (if you have any of these).

at least you now know what to do next time
forwarned is forarmed, as they say.

thanks for the help, will be ready (hopefully never need to be)