New Tank Syndrome

[joeyoii]

Hi,

i've just gotten a two feet tank for two weeks now and have just installed a new Eheim external filter model no. 2213 for the tank. it's been a day or so since the installation of the filter and there's some cloudiness in the water, so i can't see much of the landscape in the back. i've asked my lfs shopkeeper n he said it's called 'new tank syndrome',or rather i would call 'new filter syndrome'.He advised me to just change 10% of the water on alternate days and it should be fine.What are your views on this, may i ask?

And in case it helps, i am keeping 4 tiger endlers, 11 panda corydoras, 2 red whiptails, 1 sailfin pleco(a small one, roughly 5cm from head to tail), 1 baby ancistrus pleco, some red ramshorn snails, 4 otosinclus and two bumble bee gobies in the two feet tank; i and using just only driftwood and java fern for decoration and sugar sand for substrate. I feed them daily with frozen food as they wouldn't eat flakes and once a week with live tubifex worm.

I'm sorry if i can't provide any water stats as i do not hav any testing kit and my mom forbids me from buying it

worringly,
J'rey

 

[Wyksie]

Yeah regualr water changes should clear this problem over time just persevere.

 

[stang1]

You really could do with a water testing kit just to make sure your stats are ok. With your tank only being set up for two weeks and the amount of fish in there I should imagine you are going to have problems. A new tank generally needs at least two weeks to cycle and then fish should only be added a few at a time.
Please try and persuade your mum to let you have a test kit otherwise you could end up losing a lot of your fish.

 

[doresy]

Just curios mum....why no permission for water testing kit? Money well spent and a real responsable request. Mind my own business??? ok mum you're the boss

 

[joeyoii]

ok...i have gotten the green light for the testing kit after 20 hours of non-stop nagging...whew...

i am going to get it today and post the results asap.

To stang1:
i have cycled the tank for one week before i added the fishes (sry i forgot to mention tt) n the lfs shopkeeper said tt it should be okay for my amount of fishes, should i place the fishes in another tank and cycle the first one again?(this time for two weeks?

 

[Underwurlde]

You can cycle with fish if you want, but those fish must be hardy, such as Danios....

Cycling will take longer than 2 weeks.

tt? what's that mean?

should i place the fishes in another tank and cycle the first one again

Are you saying you have 2 tanks then. a new one that is not cycled and an older one which is?

worringly,
Andy

 

[joeyoii]

You can cycle with fish if you want, but those fish must be hardy, such as Danios....

Cycling will take longer than 2 weeks.

tt? what's that mean?

should i place the fishes in another tank and cycle the first one again

Are you saying you have 2 tanks then. a new one that is not cycled and an older one which is?

worringly,
Andy

'tt' is 'that' sry if i caused any inconvenience to anybody...

i cycled first tank for one week and oh my it was so filthy with the brown algae and everything(it's amazing what tropical countries can do) I asked my lfs shopkeeper and he said it should be okay.

ok...i hav 2 'two feet tanks'.the first one is the tank that i am keeping the tiger endlers and the other fishes, the second one is empty but i hav cycled it for one and a half weeks now...so im thinking whether to shift the tank with the fishes into the one without the fishes and leave the first tank be for another species of fish.

 

[Underwurlde]

None of those tanks will be cycled so don't bother moving fish about. 1.5 weeks is not enough time.

How are you cycling the empty tank?

cycled first tank for one week and oh my it was so filthy with the brown algae and everything(it's amazing what tropical countries can do)

If your tank is in direct sunlight then this would definately casue massive algae growth esp in tropical countries due to stronger sunlight, but no other reason than that. Move the tank if it is in direct sunlight. Again, one week is not long enough (I'd say generally 5 to 6 weeks minimum).

Andy

 

[InaneCathode]

Hi,

i've just gotten a two feet tank for two weeks now and have just installed a new Eheim external filter model no. 2213 for the tank. it's been a day or so since the installation of the filter and there's some cloudiness in the water, so i can't see much of the landscape in the back. i've asked my lfs shopkeeper n he said it's called 'new tank syndrome',or rather i would call 'new filter syndrome'.He advised me to just change 10% of the water on alternate days and it should be fine.What are your views on this, may i ask?

And in case it helps, i am keeping 4 tiger endlers, 11 panda corydoras, 2 red whiptails, 1 sailfin pleco(a small one, roughly 5cm from head to tail), 1 baby ancistrus pleco, some red ramshorn snails, 4 otosinclus and two bumble bee gobies in the two feet tank; i and using just only driftwood and java fern for decoration and sugar sand for substrate. I feed them daily with frozen food as they wouldn't eat flakes and once a week with live tubifex worm.

I'm sorry if i can't provide any water stats as i do not hav any testing kit and my mom forbids me from buying it

worringly,
J'rey

Eh, someone has to say it at some point but: Plecos (generally) grow freakin enourmous. Snails breed like rabbits on crack. Bumblebee gobies are brackish. Annnnnd, your fish will probably try pellets if you fast them for a few days, try to wean them onto tougher foods.
That is all

 

[andywg]

Bumblebee gobies are brackish.

Not strictly true. I have read many times they are collected from freshwater, and Naomi Deventhal (an ichthyologist who spends her time keeping and studying gobies) states they can be kept in either freshwater or brackish.

 

[joeyoii]

Hi,

i've just gotten a two feet tank for two weeks now and have just installed a new Eheim external filter model no. 2213 for the tank. it's been a day or so since the installation of the filter and there's some cloudiness in the water, so i can't see much of the landscape in the back. i've asked my lfs shopkeeper n he said it's called 'new tank syndrome',or rather i would call 'new filter syndrome'.He advised me to just change 10% of the water on alternate days and it should be fine.What are your views on this, may i ask?

And in case it helps, i am keeping 4 tiger endlers, 11 panda corydoras, 2 red whiptails, 1 sailfin pleco(a small one, roughly 5cm from head to tail), 1 baby ancistrus pleco, some red ramshorn snails, 4 otosinclus and two bumble bee gobies in the two feet tank; i and using just only driftwood and java fern for decoration and sugar sand for substrate. I feed them daily with frozen food as they wouldn't eat flakes and once a week with live tubifex worm.

I'm sorry if i can't provide any water stats as i do not hav any testing kit and my mom forbids me from buying it

worringly,
J'rey

Eh, someone has to say it at some point but: Plecos (generally) grow freakin enourmous. Snails breed like rabbits on crack. Bumblebee gobies are brackish. Annnnnd, your fish will probably try pellets if you fast them for a few days, try to wean them onto tougher foods.
That is all

ok...the sailfin pleco is now probably 5 cm from head to tail.when it gets lager(aboout 15 cm head to tail) i'll give it to my lfs as he has one eight feet tank with another huge sailfin pleco.the other plecos(the whiptails and ancistrus) i'll keep it as the whiptails do not grow much after they reach 15 cm head to tail but im not so sure on the ancistrus.if the ancistrus do grow more than 15 cm ill give it to my lfs too, since the shopkeeper is a maniac about plecos(he has reared almost every single pleco that has been found in the world.).

the bumble bee gobies that i have are reared by the lfs uncle for about 7 years now(he has not gotten any bumble bee gobies ever since his first one in 1999(don't ask me how he bred those i didn't dared to ask him...sry...))the lfs uncle has slowly bred the gobies and let them adapt to freshwater conditions so they are practically a freshwater fish now...lol...

i keep the red rams horn snails and treat them equally as the other fishes,call me crazy, but i do not know why i love keeping them so much.

i'll take your advice and try to force them into taking flake and pellet food .they have started accepting the pellets but not the flakes now.

okay.my tank now has returned to its original clear water condition by changing the water by 10% on alternate days.Thks to everyone who has tried to help.

Please forgive me for my bad english and the short forms of the words.

sincerely grateful to everybody,
J'rey

 

[Miss Wiggle]

yeah consistent water changes is the way to go when your tank's not properly cycled. have you got your test kit yet? can you test for ph, ammonia, nitrite and nitrate and let us know the results.

you'll need to keep doing the regular water changes until ammonia and nitrite both consistently read 0. after that you just need to do about 30% once a week.

 

[SuperColey1]

I've seen and read that Bumble Bee Gobies can survive in freshwater, and I know someone who has had one for quite a while

 

[joeyoii]

ok i took a test yesterday and this morning, and here are the results respectively.

Yesterday
pH:6.9
amonia:0.005
nitrite:0ppm
nitrate:3ppm

Today
pH:7.0
amonia:0.002
nitrite:0ppm
nitrate:2ppm

 

[InaneCathode]

ok i took a test yesterday and this morning, and here are the results respectively.

Yesterday
pH:6.9
amonia:0.005
nitrite:0ppm
nitrate:3ppm

Today
pH:7.0
amonia:0.002
nitrite:0ppm
nitrate:2ppm

Surely you mean '.5' ppm ammonia?