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[Tizer]

35 litres of water is not much of a home for some of the fish you have listed. If you combined the experience of people on here into years, 44 years of experience of one single person really fades into nothing You wont get much better advice than here, but its your choice. good luck.

 

[KittyKat]

I was told today its 10gallons.

Type in "35 litres in gallons" into Google, it will do the conversion for you: http/www.google.com/search?q=35+litres+in+gallons
The result is "9.24602183 US gallons", which is 7.69892051 Imperial gallons.
I estimated down because a 35 litre aquarium will contain only about 25 litres of water after décor.

I dont 5 large fish? I have 3 very small guppys that im told dont get any bigger, a fighter fish and a snail. The tank looks empty

Yes you do: you have 3* 5 cm guppies, 1* 5 cm Betta, 1* 1" apple snail. Those are adult sizes and add up to approximately 5 medium sized fish in terms of bio-load (how much waste they produce). They will grow to those sizes with good care, so you need to plan ahead. If you treat them as the little fish that they are now, there will come a time in the future where you will either need to get rid of some of your fish or the fish will suffer.

I was told today that 35litres will fit 15-20 fish in along the line of Danios, Tetras, Guppys.

Zebra danios, which the person who told you are suitable probably meant, grow to a whooping 5 cm and are very active fish: they can clear a 4-5 ft tank from one side to the other in under 1 second. In a tank which is under 2 ft long, they will only have enough space to go around in circles. There are smaller danio species which are more suited to your tank, but they're less common. Danios and tetras are also schooling fish, I wrote a short explanation of what this means here, please do read it: http/aquariumadventure.wordpress.com/2011/09/07/deciding-on-fish-numbers/ , but in short, schooling fish should not be kept in groups of smaller than 6 and should ideally be kept in groups of 10-15+.
Personally, I think guppies are too large for this tank as well, but they are a much better choice than a 5 cm danio or tetra.

Another question, how can you tell if a guppys pregnant?

If a female has been with males and there is nothing biologically wrong with her, she will be pregnant. Unfortunately, you would need more experience and to know the individual female well to be able to tell by looking.

No an aquarium shop with 44 years experience, i used to go as a child with my parents.

Which is also 44 years of experience on how to make most money. Also, what about individual employees? I do not know the hiring policy of the shop you visit, but it is not uncommon for those who know nothing about fishkeeping to be hired.

Parents have never had a problem with them and neither has anyone else to be honest so i trust them fully.

No offence, but that's like saying you don't want to learn. They have already not been honest with you, but how will you realise this if you don't question what they say? I am not saying that you should blindly believe what I say, but I am saying that you should seek other opinions.
Unless you give examples of the fish your parents had and how long they lived for and how they kept the fish in different environments to compare behaviour, "never had a problem" does not mean anything, unfortunately. I often see people come on here saying "when I was little, we never had a problem doing x" only to find out that the fish survived for 1/4 of their natural life span. Humanity's understanding of how to look after animals has changed in the last 44 years and will continue changing. I encourage you to learn about the changes.

And yes, rather than be victimised about my tank and fish, i will stick to someone with 44 years experience

I am sorry that you feel victimised, I am sure everyone on here only wants what is best for the fish in the long term and for you to not have any negative experiences in keeping the fish.

I would like to point out a few things though: collectively, we have more than 44 years of experience in fishkeeping. A lot more. We do not know who you actually are, where you are from, what your name is. We do not have access to your money and will never benefit from your choices when it comes to the fish you keep. Since we will never benefit from anything you do, what do you think our agenda is?

For me, it is that I do not like to see animals hurt, regardless of whether they are aquatic or have four legs and bark.

 

[KittyKat]

Thinking about it, this is not completely untrue:

I was told today that 35litres will fit 15-20 fish in along the line of Danios, Tetras, Guppys.

The tank will fit 15-20 Characidae gen. sp. “Yellow Glass” (which are a tetra) OR 15-20 Boraras naevus (which is kinda a danio) OR 15-20 Micropoecilia minima (which are a type of "swamp guppy").

But the tank will not fit 15-20 cardinal tetras, it will not fit 15-20 zebra danios and it will not fit 15-20 common guppies. The filter would not be able to cope with the waste that these larger fish will produce and the fish will be poisoned by ammonia (and potentially nitrite and ntirate) as a result. Ammonia poisoning is not always visible, but it will make the fish more susceptible to diseases and they will die before they reach old age.

 

[minnnt]

End of... Lol. 99.9% of websites and forums will tell you the same... The person that won't agree will be some lfs keeper who relies on peoples money to live on, so the more fish he can sell the better he can live. He will sell you 20 fish no problem, should he sell you 20 fish for your tank? No.

As I said, a 35 litre tank lends itself to micro species very well indeed and you could create a very nice and interesting tank with interesting fish!

 

[Gelt]

The advice on here is the best you will get....as it is advice I suggest you take note , the experience from this forum is highly regarded and tried and tested. You couldn't have found a better place to ask questions and obviously keen to gleen information to give your fish the best possible care or you would not have posted.
no one will try to sell you anything or needs to make a living with the advice given, it's not biased. please listen people who take time to respond to posts do so to promote responsible fishkeeping, as for years of expertise and knowledge collectively it's probably quite a few hundred.
Stick with it and your watery world in a glass box will never fail to amaze you and be enjoyable ( if not frustrating sometimes!)
Again this is advice , it's free and you can take it or leave it.
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[minnnt]

 

[shaunna_90]

I do like the forum but everything i post seems to be judged rather than just helping me and pointing me in the right direction.
The fish my parents had previously were guppys, danios and tetras and had them about 4 years, i dont know the life span of tropical fish but i thought this was a good age. If not then maybe the fish shop isnt so good afterall though i do trust them. Told me i wouldnt really need a air pump, pipe etc but surely if all he was after was money then he would have sold it me anyway. The fish shop are very truthful and too the point and i researched the air pump and it did say theyre only for decoration really so found it too be true.
The guppies are doing brilliantly, very active and healthy appetite. Already know when the foods coming haha
Dont have anymore fish yet, confused about what im suposed to do and what to have. Tank looks very empty but dont really feel like having more now dont want to be cruel. My fish look very happy and active and surely i would know if i was doing wrong and they didnt fit the tank!

 

[Louiseness]

I do like the forum but everything i post seems to be judged rather than just helping me and pointing me in the right direction.

People have 'pointed you in the right direction' - they've told you it's not a good idea to add any more fish to that size tank, for the health of your fish. Turns out the advice isn't what you wanted to hear, but unfortunately help doesn't necessarily mean saying 'add more fish'!

Truth is that 35L is a small tank, probably just about the smallest tank that a lot of members would recommend for a SINGLE (male) betta. However, one of the things you COULD add without affecting your bioload is shrimp

 

[Tizer]

Also remember your fish are very young still, they have some growing to do. It is impossible to tell if fish are happy, they cant smile at you, they cant give you the thumbs up and often signs that you think are signs of them being happy are actually them stressing out in their environment.

 

[Dieses Madchen]

I would take my advice from someone with 10+ years of experience taking care, and adoring fish (like the members on here) over someone with 44years of taking care of fish to make a profit. Just being honest. he members of this forum do not have anything to gain by giving you advice. All they want is to see you with a happy thriving tank. The man at the LFS with 44 years of experience wants you to have an aquarium with fish stocked from his store, and he wants to continue selling you fish from his store. The advice you received from the LFS doesnt seem like the most sound advice, and these nice people on the forum are trying to redirect you in a good direction for your tank. Rather than get on the defensive about it, listen to them. They are right. Danio's need a lot of room. LFS want to make money. My LFS says the minimum tank needed for a clown loach is 20 gallons. They also said a black ghost knife fish only needs 50gallons. Oh and my favorate, a common pleco only needs 20gallon. Anyone on this sight can tell me that these recommendations are wrong.

Did your LFS tell you about cycling the tank? If so, how did he tell you to do it? If it is not cycled, did he recommend the test kit you will need to guage your water changes? If so, which one?

I was a newbie when I joined this site. I didn't know what I was doing and ended up losing money because I listened to the fish store. And even though I had an uncycled tank, with high ammonia levels that was killing my fish, they kept selling me more. It wasn't until I joined this forum that I was able to see WOW! Fish stores just want to sell fish. These people here are not trying to be hurtful, or judgemental. They want to help you. A lot of these members have spectacular tanks. I would definitely try to follow their advice, not shoot it down because it is not what you want to here. They saved my fishes lives, by telling me what I was doing wrong. I had fish that were going to be too big for my tank, I had incompatible species in the same tank. And they helped me sort everything out. I have thriving communities in my home, and I owe it to the members here, for being patient, and not being afraid to tell me I am wrong, or even just saying "Hey, maybe if you did this it would be better."

Consider the sources, Advice from those who love fish, or those who want to sell fish?

 

[KittyKat]

I do like the forum but everything i post seems to be judged rather than just helping me and pointing me in the right direction.

OK, so some people overreacted, but look back and you will see that not everything is judgemental: there is a lot of information there too and even some enquiries for more information!

The fish my parents had previously were guppys, danios and tetras and had them about 4 years, i dont know the life span of tropical fish but i thought this was a good age.

It really depends on the species, here are some estimates: 1 year for some killifish, 5 years for guppies, 10-13 years for neon tetras, 20-25+ years for goldfish, 50+ years for koi (with good care; there are some sources which claim 200+, but I do not know how reliable those are).

If not then maybe the fish shop isnt so good afterall though i do trust them. Told me i wouldnt really need a air pump, pipe etc but surely if all he was after was money then he would have sold it me anyway. The fish shop are very truthful and too the point and i researched the air pump and it did say theyre only for decoration really so found it too be true.

It is very possible that they're up to speed on certain new trends and not others, just take everything *everyone* says with a pinch of salt and use your common sense

The guppies are doing brilliantly, very active and healthy appetite. Already know when the foods coming haha

Glad to hear it.

Dont have anymore fish yet, confused about what im suposed to do and what to have. Tank looks very empty but dont really feel like having more now dont want to be cruel. My fish look very happy and active and surely i would know if i was doing wrong and they didnt fit the tank!

For the moment, here's my suggestion: don't add any more fish, make your tank a nice environment for them (add some plants, wood/rocks, take your time to research these), see how you get on. Read about cycling in detail, learn to use test kits, get into a nice maintenance routine, research, research and research some more. In a few weeks, assuming everything is going well, some back and tell us which direction you want to head in with your tank and answer these questions:

What is your pH? Dimensions of the tank? Décor (photo would help here)? All of these affect recommendations.

Then, you'll probably get something more along the lines of what you want to hear.