Need Help With This New Koi Asap. W/pictures

[t1tanrush]

So I embarked on a project, the local pond I fish has 7-8 large koi that someone released into it. I'm taking them out and selling them to people with private ponds dedicated to koi. That isn't the point though. I managed to capture one this morning while I was out, I netted him and transported him home in pond water and kept him dark. He is currently swimming in a pool in my backyard I bought for these fish, he has between 500-600 gallons of water to swim in right now, and most of it has been treated. He's swimming around and looking happy here are some pictures:

As you can see by the pictures he's had a rough life, it isn't a big pond so he's basically had 4 years of life like this, and he is in pretty bad condition. He acts and behaves healthy, I've watched him in the pond for over a week and he and his koi friends behave fine, however upon capture I can tell he isn't well.
It almost is like he was burned on his sides, they are red, most of his scales are gone and his fins are a bit torn up. I know fins can heal up, however I'm not sure about scale loss, can he grow them back or will he be mostly scale-less forever now? His skin is obviously irritated and is red in some spots (like if you where to scrape your skin on the cement), he has a cut where the blood is near the surface, but not bleeding.

Any ideas for getting him back on the right track? Just like to get him back looking healthy so he can get into a nice private pond without kids throwing sticks at him and 1000 anglers trying to get him.

-Mike

 

[black angel]

looks like blood poisoning to me ~ septiceamia

common for fish kept in really filthy unfiltered water

all you can do is keep the water as clean and as healthy as possible and feed if youre in the US metromeds or medigold and nothing else for 3 weeks and as much as the fish will eat two or three times a day..this has antibacterial meds in it and will fight the infection from the inside.

the poisoning itself will go once clean water and meds work in the system, but secondary infections are quite common and its those that usually kill the fish...try to keep the fish in a stress free environment and try not to handle it.

 

[t1tanrush]

looks like blood poisoning to me ~ septiceamia

common for fish kept in really filthy unfiltered water

all you can do is keep the water as clean and as healthy as possible and feed if youre in the US metromeds or medigold and nothing else for 3 weeks and as much as the fish will eat two or three times a day..this has antibacterial meds in it and will fight the infection from the inside.

the poisoning itself will go once clean water and meds work in the system, but secondary infections are quite common and its those that usually kill the fish...try to keep the fish in a stress free environment and try not to handle it.

Any idea how bad the infection is? He acts like an extremely healthy fish he's very active and swimming around his little pool.. Any idea where to get metromeds/medigold? I'm not sure if any local shops have it, is there a common commercial equal kinda like melafix maybe?

 

[black angel]

try ebay for the meds, no idea who the maker is sorry. external meds arent really that effective but you can if you like try something for internal bacterial issues..but finding the food will give the fish a better chance of survival.

septiceamia itself isnt too bad to treat, just that it may hide other underlying issues of bacterial infection such as dropsy. he does have a bad case of it though and yes koi are resilient and can im afraid just suddenly die.

keep him feeding if you can and if he does show any sign of going downhill find a koi vet.

found a link for it

http/www.goldfishconnection.com/shop/det...d=8&catId=5

 

[t1tanrush]

try ebay for the meds, no idea who the maker is sorry. external meds arent really that effective but you can if you like try something for internal bacterial issues..but finding the food will give the fish a better chance of survival.

septiceamia itself isnt too bad to treat, just that it may hide other underlying issues of bacterial infection such as dropsy. he does have a bad case of it though and yes koi are resilient and can im afraid just suddenly die.

keep him feeding if you can and if he does show any sign of going downhill find a koi vet.

found a link for it

[URL="http/www.goldfishconnection.com/shop/det...d=8&catId=5"]http/www.goldfishconnection.com/shop/det...d=8&catId=5[/URL]

I'm using a very broad spectrum antibiotic called primafix for ponds. Hopefully this will help it does say it helps with internal issues. At the size of the fish I don't think I can afford the shipping+ the amount of food I would have to feed him...
How much do these koi vets run? I'm kind of a poor going into college kid and I don't have a ton of money to just throw around, especially for a fish I'm getting out of situation and trying to rehome.

 

[t1tanrush]

He's struggling now, seems it is pretty well set and he keeps flipping over and can't right himself. I help him sit normal but he just flips over, I let him stay flipped hoping he can sort himself out as it doesn't seem like there is anymore I can do.

 

[Forestpisces]

Don't handle him, septicemia can pass to humans

Maybe it's best to let him pass, clove oil?

 

[t1tanrush]

Don't handle him, septicemia can pass to humans

Maybe it's best to let him pass, clove oil?

From everything I read it can not be passed, I would however handle him to right him so he didn't suffer, the pool was dosed for 1.5X the dose on the bottle and I have no blood on me or anything, washed my hands well after as well, and getting ready to hop in the shower.

He passed tonight while I was out, it was a pretty bad case so...

Any idea if it spreads to other fish so I know if the rest of them I pull out will have it? I read it doesn't but I'm not sure.

 

[black angel]

it will vary from fish to fish and depend on eaches immune system.. some will have various pests, diseases and so forth. some though will look healthy and carry disease to established ponds...

if you are wanting to do this i suggest you should quarantine each fish for at least a month before selling on or you could in fact be giving the fishes new owner a huge headache with unquarantined fish....or you tell the new owners that the fish has been caught from a wild source and should be quarantined for at least a month to ensure no hidden diseases or parasites are carried on